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ScottPhotoCo
17-May-2016, 11:18
Good afternoon all,

As the title says I am looking for options for an 8x10 viewing hood to use on my 8x10 Deardorff. I have one for my 4x5 Toyo and it's fantastic. I'd like to use the same process for my 8x10. Was anything like this made?

Thanks in advance!

StoneNYC
17-May-2016, 15:04
I'm sure someone made one once but I suspect you'll have to do it yourself or commission one made.

John Kasaian
17-May-2016, 15:22
Or move to Australia, where the image on the gg should appear right side up :o

Jonathan Barlow
17-May-2016, 17:30
There was a Sinar-compatible 8x10 binocular viewer made by Horseman that I've come across a few times over the years. It was pretty much an 8x10 version of the common Sinar 4x5 binocular viewing hood.

Ari
17-May-2016, 17:37
Tim, search the archives, someone here made an 8x10 hood out of neoprene, using pieces from an old diving suit.
It looked pretty nice, worked well, and folded down neatly using some velcro.

tgtaylor
17-May-2016, 19:51
Shooting LF since 2002 I've become so accustomed to seeing the world upside down and laterally reversed that I don't about it anymore. That's the way it's supposed to look, ain't it? A few years back I bought a Toyo 4x5 binocular hood (all my 4x5's are Toyo) but after the first session I decided to stick with seeing the world upside down and laterally reversed. It's simpler that way - and less bulky to boot.

Thomas

ScottPhotoCo
17-May-2016, 22:56
The reason I'm considering a viewing hood is simply for speed. I shoot a lot of portraits and the speed of set up and my shooting style benefits from this approach.


Tim
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ghostcount
17-May-2016, 23:50
Tim, search the archives, someone here made an 8x10 hood out of neoprene, using pieces from an old diving suit.
It looked pretty nice, worked well, and folded down neatly using some velcro.

Alas, the photos don't show up on Safari...

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?76172-Viewing-Hood-for-8X10-Toyo

pierre506
18-May-2016, 04:56
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chris_4622
18-May-2016, 05:47
Alas, the photos don't show up on Safari...

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?76172-Viewing-Hood-for-8X10-Toyo

Not in Firefox either.

What about a design similar to the Speed Graphic folding metal hoods? Hinging and springs would be the challenge. Either garolite or black aluminum for the flaps.

Tin Can
18-May-2016, 06:35
That's a great example!

However I must warn people this design is not good for everybody. I have a 4x5 version and my odd eyesight does not work with it. Yes there were corrective diaopters but they even more rare. However the 4x5 Polaroid MP3 version does work for me with it's strong magnification. I think they are also rare...

What does work for everybody is the bellows design without a mirror and with a peephole lens. The bellows allows one to move your viewing distance to GG.


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Neal Chaves
18-May-2016, 08:05
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I've used a self-made viewing hood on my cameras since I started with 8X10 in 1984. I was used to using one on 4X5 and you never know how many nuts there are in the world until you get under the dark cloth of a view camera by the side of the road! I make them out of wet suit neoprene available at dive shops. When I had a Deardorff, I put Velcro hook tape on the ground glass frame and loop tape on the hood. Now that I have the Toyo 810M, I made a frame from hobby store aircraft plywood and glued the hood to the frame. The hood folds up when not in use and helps to protect the ground glass. Works well for me with a pair of reading glasses.

Tin Can
18-May-2016, 08:24
3 pictures are worth at least 999 words. I will make this!

Thanks


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I've used a self-made viewing hood on my cameras since I started with 8X10 in 1984. I was used to using one on 4X5 and you never know how many nuts there are in the world until you get under the dark cloth of a view camera by the side of the road! I make them out of wet suit neoprene available at dive shops. When I had a Deardorff, I put Velcro hook tape on the ground glass frame and loop tape on the hood. Now that I have the Toyo 810M, I made a frame from hobby store aircraft plywood and glued the hood to the frame. The hood folds up when not in use and helps to protect the ground glass. Works well for me with a pair of reading glasses.

Jac@stafford.net
18-May-2016, 08:43
If you want a reflex viewing hood and have access to a table saw, construction is quite simple. The angles are 90 and 45 degrees. A first surface mirror is required. The best deals I've found for them were from http://firstsurfacemirror.com/ Cost about $45 for 8x10", and any size can be ordered. A bit smaller than 8x10 is best. I'm fortunate to have an art framing shop only 1/2 block from my home. They can cut any glass with outstanding precision.

Jonathan Barlow
18-May-2016, 11:02
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Did you buy this on eBay a few years ago? It looks like the one I saw listed with user-added Sinar label. As far as I know, Sinar never made an 8x10 reflex viewer.

Neal Chaves
18-May-2016, 13:20
A first surface mirror is required in a reflex camera to redirect the image to the ground glass, but not for viewing the image reflected from the ground glass. Try it.

JosephBurke
20-May-2016, 16:17
You mention that you used the Toyo hood/reflex viewer on your 4x5. Then why not adapt the Toyo 8x10 reflex viewer for your Deardorff? Should be easy enough to adapt.
I know they're out there as I have one that I acquired for my Toyo 8x10 M II.
If you want pics just message me on FB.
--Joe Burke

pierre506
22-May-2016, 06:45
You mention that you used the Toyo hood/reflex viewer on your 4x5. Then why not adapt the Toyo 8x10 reflex viewer for your Deardorff? Should be easy enough to adapt.
I know they're out there as I have one that I acquired for my Toyo 8x10 M II.
If you want pics just message me on FB.
--Joe Burke
How do you keep the reflex viewer on to your Deardorff 8x10 camera?
Sinar, Cambo, Linhof, Toyo... could add the viewer, but Deardorff~

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Jac@stafford.net
22-May-2016, 07:33
A first surface mirror is required in a reflex camera to redirect the image to the ground glass, but not for viewing the image reflected from the ground glass. Try it.

I think Neal is right, however I've had disappointing viewing with traditional mirrors. 'Try it' is the best advice.

asf
22-May-2016, 08:13
Velcro


How do you keep the reflex viewer on to your Deardorff 8x10 camera?
Sinar, Cambo, Linhof, Toyo... could add the viewer, but Deardorff~

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pierre506
29-Oct-2016, 16:34
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Tin Can
29-Oct-2016, 16:59
Wow!



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phillip2446
17-May-2022, 04:47
has anybody made one from scratch? 3d printed? am interested in seeing it. i plan on making one in the next month or so.

Daniel Unkefer
17-May-2022, 05:48
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51824918486_c195dcc821_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mXAfHm)8x10 18x24 Sinar Norma Overhead Shooting Table 165 Norma SA (https://flic.kr/p/2mXAfHm) by Nokton48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18134483@N04/), on Flickr

The idea is to leave this set up on a semi-permanent basis. Good for any kind of shooting from basically directly above, but oblique is possible too. Plenty to experiment with at this point

Serge S
17-May-2022, 07:30
The neoprene version appears to be a good simple & serviceable option. I"m tempted to make one up to use when the days are windy with my Deardorff.
Must take a special sewing machine to stitch neoprene?

Neal Chaves
17-May-2022, 08:21
Here is one I made from wet suit neoprene. I first made one for my 8X10 Deardorff held on by Velcro and then for my Toyo 810M, glued to a plywood frame that attaches like a Toyo accessory.

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LabRat
18-May-2022, 04:25
The neoprene version appears to be a good simple & serviceable option. I"m tempted to make one up to use when the days are windy with my Deardorff.
Must take a special sewing machine to stitch neoprene?

No stitching, if you bond the seams with wet suit cement, they are very strong... If you apply a thin layer to both surfaces to be bonded, wait a minute or two, then press them together, they are as strong as the material itself...

Get it at a dive or surf shop...

Steve K

Tin Can
18-May-2022, 05:14
Good tip

I have been wanting to make a flexible GG viewing hood

and unlike a few years ago many online sellers, selling by the yard




No stitching, if you bond the seams with wet suit cement, they are very strong... If you apply a thin layer to both surfaces to be bonded, wait a minute or two, then press them together, they are as strong as the material itself...

Get it at a dive or surf shop...

Steve K

Serge S
18-May-2022, 06:21
Thank you for the info Steve. I will give it a go.


No stitching, if you bond the seams with wet suit cement, they are very strong... If you apply a thin layer to both surfaces to be bonded, wait a minute or two, then press them together, they are as strong as the material itself...

Get it at a dive or surf shop...

Steve K

Drew Bedo
18-May-2022, 07:08
What I am getting is that the inverted/reversed GG image is the issue:

My experience is that after a while the brain adapts and this is no longer a distraction or a problem.

An out of the box and off the wall idea now: Perhaps there is a DIY work around that can be done with a smart phone to re-invert the GG image to "right-side-up' when previewing the composition.

Daniel Unkefer
18-May-2022, 07:17
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52082326586_dbd83b9ca2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2nmkxb3)New 8x10 Norma Number Two (https://flic.kr/p/2nmkxb3) by Nokton48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18134483@N04/), on Flickr

New to Me 8x10 Sinar Norma Number Two. I saw this configuration, at an Annie Leibovitz exhibition at the Wexner Center at OSU. A giant mural sized print on the wall, showing the interior of Richard Avedon's camera closet. A Sinar F Front Standard, and a Norma 8x10 Rear Standard. I thought at this time this seemed an odd combo. Now that I have configured it in my studio I see why it is a great location unit. I think I will leave it set up this way and maybe even start taking it out.

The Norma 8x10 Bag Bellows, the Adapter Plate with circular cutout, and Norma Monocular allows me to fine focus and see in great detail the groundglass. Can't see it all at once, but I can examine the four quadrants and it's very enjoyable to view. The Norma eyepiece setup wants to come apart, so out came the Hollywood Gaffer Tape and that's it. I prefer this and it works great for me. :) Monoculars rule in my studio I have one of each camera