4X5 rangefinder from China

[koh303]

A while back there was someone on Ebay selling a folding 4X5 camera, a-la chamonix saber, with a coupled rangefinder, made in China.
Does someone have a link, or know who/what this was?

[H Gloriant]

link ! http://www.chamonixviewcamera.com/saber.html

[AtlantaTerry]

To quote the Chamonix website,
"Important note: Saber camera has run out of stock and there is no plan to make more."

[Oren Grad]

koh303 isn't asking about the Chamonix Saber. There was a Chinese seller offering another 4x5 RF that was built on a Polaroid base. I had seen it as well but did not save the details.

[koh303]

I found it. Called 18 degrees. Still for sale on Ebay, though customization and sturdienss do not exactly appear to be perfect yet. It is also not clear if they will cut cams which are universal per focal length or if you would need to send in a lens for matching.

[Drew Bedo]

Can't find "18 Degrees" on e-Bay (but that could be operator error)


Related to OP:

What ever happened to the "Byron" Polaroid conversion?

[vinny]

Can't find "18 Degrees" on e-Bay (but that could be operator error)


Related to OP:

What ever happened to the "Byron" Polaroid conversion?

why not? http://www.ebay.com/itm/201470156621?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[fishbulb]

It looks like they also sell a 4x5 pinhole model (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191784999084) and a 4x5 fixed-focal length model (http://www.ebay.com/itm/201470156621) at 58 degrees, basically a wanderlust clone.

Interesting stuff.

[EdSawyer]

It is an interesting camera, would be cool to hear more about these if/when someone here gets one.

[europanorama]

Its 18°.
or 3d-krpc on ebay. is this the same?
2. he confused FL values and fstops. compare these with
http://www.mrpinhole.com/holesize.php
i already informed them.
highly interesting pinholes with shutter/cable-release. e.g. prontor-press-range is from 2-32 secs.
now its highest time someone will produce removable shift-plates. pinholes, zone-plates and zone-sieves ala skinkphoto but with shifted positions. e.g. a simple one only up. by rotating cam one will get shift downwards.

[europanorama]

also interesting would be how to mount helicoids and how to attach filmholders. maybe 3d-krpc is only a reseller. must search for 18° on ebay.

[europanorama]

Its 18°.
or 3d-krpc on ebay. is this the same?
2. he confused FL values and fstops. compare these with
http://www.mrpinhole.com/holesize.php
i already informed them.
highly interesting pinholes with shutter/cable-release. e.g. prontor-press-range is from 2-32 secs.
now its highest time someone will produce removable shift-plates. pinholes, zone-plates and zone-sieves ala skinkphoto but with shifted positions. e.g. a simple one only up. by rotating cam one will get shift downwards.
2. He didnt confuse anything: his FL is 40mm thanks to camera-design...
like aupremierplans table is telling specifit pinhole sizes match a certain range for optimal sharpness.
see here:
151109

[europanorama]

News from 3s-krpc(ebay)-seller of these 18°-cameras
1. Rangefinder 4x5 47-150mm 700 usd
2. Point and shoot 4x5 with shutter pinhole 60mm/0.3mm f200 240 usd
more sophisticated locking system
option:fixed focus 58 xl and 65mm grandagon-preshift 8mm or more like in technorama 612 would be nice.
if one could integrate in shuttered pinhole zoneplate/zone-sieve by skinkfoto?
3. Pinhole 4x5 40mm 0.2mm f200 simple two screws locking-system 99 usd
see also WA-viewfinder
i like the pinholes with shutter. point and shoot has one included.

[europanorama]

There must be a thread about the western name of the chinese 18° cameras. Cosmos Circle 4x5
pinhole-shutters are complete sets. pinhole-plates integrated. one cannot replace e-g by replacing the with zoneplate, zonesieve(20mm) by skinkfoto.

Update: New Shutter has replaceable Pinholes but others will not match only their own. shutter is for copal-0-lensboard. with counterring. also two holes for screwing.
Have seen details but still open questions.
3s-krpc on ebay is sometimes working. worked on my administrator-account last week all of a sudden then stopped maybe its my pc. couldnt reach his store. maybe censorship. only googling helped.
Here are the links:
he has now also Bodycaps:
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/COSMOS-CIRCLE-4X5-Large-Format-Camera-with-Pinhole-Shutter/192965877532

The listing is for one NEW 18° Laser Drilled Laser Drilled Pinhole Piece.

Aperture size : 0.1mm/0.15mm/0.2mm/0.25mm/0.3mm/0.35mm/0.4mm/0.45mm/0.5mm/0.6mm/0.7mm/0.8mm/0.9mm/1.0mm
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/COSMOS-CIRCLE-4X5-Large-Format-Camera-with-Pinhole-Shutter/192965877532
202538329897
https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Canon-EF-Pinhole-Body-Cap/191585638255

[europanorama]

i think we have deeper discussions(2) on photrio. new cams coming slowly.

[aly324]

i think we have deeper discussions(2) on photrio. new cams coming slowly.

Where are these threads on Photrio?

[Greg]

Conversions of Polaroid cameras to shooting 4x5 sheet film certainly an option to consider. A fellow photographer picked up a used (of course) Polaroid camera at a garage sale for a mere few bucks. Adapted a 4x5 back to it. He said it was an "easy" adaption, but then he is very talented machinist, all for less than $100. Certainly one option to consider.