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Robert Opheim
8-Mar-2016, 14:07
I followed this lens on e-bay and was astounded by the selling price

It was listed as:

F: 7.7 Series III No. 7a lens - it later was listed at a: Goerz Dagor 16 1/2 inch #315097 - a barrel lens with a damaged iris.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Goerz-Dagor-F-7-7-Series-III-No-7a-Lens-/401079681926

It sold for $5,642

Drew Wiley
8-Mar-2016, 14:11
Surprised they still charged shipping.

Rael
8-Mar-2016, 14:25
I followed this lens on e-bay and was astounded by the selling price

It was listed as:

F: 7.7 Series III No. 7a lens - it later was listed at a: Goerz Dagor 16 1/2 inch #315097 - a barrel lens with a damaged iris.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Goerz-Dagor-F-7-7-Series-III-No-7a-Lens-/401079681926

It sold for $5,642

WHY? What's so incredible about it?

Steven Tribe
8-Mar-2016, 14:37
This was probably a a genuine case of an experienced bidder/winner of photographic items making a careless high bid to make sure he won it. Unfortunately for him, a non-experienced bidder took a fancy to it too. The unlucky winner knows he made a mistake, the loser doesn't know he was the real winner. Surely this deal will not through - it must be worth his while to drop out of ebay for a time and start again later.

This size of Dagor is quite common and there many larger sizes that do really cover 20x24".

Mark Sawyer
8-Mar-2016, 14:52
WHY? What's so incredible about it?

Well, there's one in a shutter with a working iris currently sitting unsold in this forum's classifieds for $1425...

koh303
8-Mar-2016, 16:29
at least 2 buyers at close to selling price of that auction.

Taija71A
8-Mar-2016, 16:50
It gets even better...

The Aperture Diaphragm Blades... Appear to be broken on that specific Lens. :rolleyes:

Drew Wiley
8-Mar-2016, 17:18
I always get a kick out of some of these web auction things. If you want to do something and get away with it, do it big. I ran into an expensive listing for a rare
fossil, an intact Jurassic rhinoceros horn. Well, should have been super-rare, since rhinos weren't even close to existing yet that far back. My own paleo schooling was a bit rusty, but I eventually recognized it as a fairly ordinary piece of Devonian rugosa coral. Then I've run into prints for sale by such-and-such persons for 30 to 40K apiece, which sell for 3 to 4 apiece in the dude's own galleries. Guess if you want to land a big fish you need a big lure.

c.d.ewen
8-Mar-2016, 17:18
Relisted for $50. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Early-Goerz-Dagor-F-7-7-Series-III-No-7a-Focus-16-5-No-315097-Lens-/111929857558?)

That's exactly what I paid for mine.

Charley

koh303
8-Mar-2016, 17:29
bids are free, and no one is obligated to pay, now, sellers are no longer obligated to sell...

Jim Fitzgerald
8-Mar-2016, 18:25
I know what happened, hence the re-listing.

goamules
8-Mar-2016, 19:06
Relisted eh? The plot thickens.

Mark Sawyer
8-Mar-2016, 20:02
Perhaps it's a new buying strategy: bid big, and then see if people laugh at you before deciding whether to pay...

Two23
8-Mar-2016, 20:44
I know what happened, hence the re-listing.


Well, OK. Don't bid over $4,000 this time.


Kent in SD

Jim Fitzgerald
8-Mar-2016, 22:00
Well, OK. Don't bid over $4,000 this time.


Kent in SD

Not me! I know the value of lenses and I'd never bid that much.

Hugo Zhang
8-Mar-2016, 23:12
I know what happened, hence the re-listing.

Somebody added extra 0 when bidding at the last seconds? :)

Jim Fitzgerald
9-Mar-2016, 08:45
Somebody added extra 0 when bidding at the last seconds? :)

That's what I'm thinking

Tri Tran
9-Mar-2016, 10:45
And may be the SS cell phone keyboard is so darn sensitive .

neil poulsen
9-Mar-2016, 10:48
I sold one a year or two ago. It was a 16.5" f7.7 (Dagor), factory coated lens in good condition mounted in its original shutter. (Shutter worked fine.) Even at about $1400, it took a while to sell. It seems that all the expensive lenses I've sold have gone to Asian countries through a U.S. based shipper.

Taija71A
12-Mar-2016, 18:09
bids are free, and no one is obligated to pay, now, sellers are no longer obligated to sell...

This is an interesting comment...

Since when... Are sellers no longer obligated to sell (*Your words... Not mine)?
Did eBay recently make a change to their... 'Rules & Policies' ???

Thank-you! -Tim.

Jody_S
12-Mar-2016, 19:20
Basically there are no real consequences for a seller who refuses to follow through. Minor risk of bad feedback if you can't lie convincingly. Buyers can back out most of the time because it's easier to cancel a transaction than insist on collecting knowing you have an angry buyer who will leave bad feedback.

koh303
12-Mar-2016, 19:40
Basically there are no real consequences for a seller who refuses to follow through. Minor risk of bad feedback if you can't lie convincingly. Buyers can back out most of the time because it's easier to cancel a transaction than insist on collecting knowing you have an angry buyer who will leave bad feedback.

actually, there is a new feature allowing the seller to cancel a transaction which has not been paid for. Once that is does it blocks the buyer from leaving feedback for that particular transaction, and there is no longer a defect system, at least not one that counts cancellations.