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RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 13:03
I am looking for ideas on how to achieve a well lot scene for little money.

Speedlights are not strong enough for what I'm trying to do. I'm looking for 2000ws or higher per light source.

My first idea is to try old style flashbulbs but I need a fixture/implement that will allow multiple bulbs to be synced.

I have seen some dishes o winston link used which housed multiple bulbs at once. Where would income something like this?

Modern strobe equipment capable of similar results are out of my budget but I will consider all your suggestions.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 13:23
I'm looking for best case scenario f11 at 20ft.

Denny
12-Feb-2016, 15:02
Might take some practice, but how about painting with light? Flashlights are inexpensive...

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 15:32
Yes that's my go to technique. But for this particular shot I need to freeze motion.

Bob Salomon
12-Feb-2016, 15:48
Yes that's my go to technique. But for this particular shot I need to freeze motion.

You can freeze the action with flash and paint the rest if the scene. Would have to filter one of them to balance with the other though.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 15:55
Normally this would work.

Ok maybe more background info is needed. I am shooting a boat scene on water. My exposures with flashlight "paint" is very long in the ordinance of minutes.

Even though the boats appear still the film records movement.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 16:18
I've been doing some research and it seems like the number 75 flashbulb is the biggest ever made. I found one on an auction site but I think it may be overkill.

I need maybe 1/4-1/2 that power. The 75 is used for aerial photography but I am not sure at what altitude or distance to the subject they are used.

I am glad these exost but what kind of device is used to hold and activate a flashbulb on a stand? I've only seen flashbulbs used mounted on cameras press-style.

I am looking for a way to set a flashbulb on a stand and sync it with my shutter.

jp
12-Feb-2016, 16:30
F11 and 20 feet isn't that tough to light with flash for iso400 film (GN 110). A Nikon sb24 or Vivitar 285hv will handle that by itself with room to spare.

Bob Salomon
12-Feb-2016, 16:33
Normally this would work.

Ok maybe more background info is needed. I am shooting a boat scene on water. My exposures with flashlight "paint" is very long in the ordinance of minutes.

Even though the boats appear still the film records movement.

Paint the background first, then shoot the boat.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 16:35
I have a yonguo 560 iii
Specs are Guide Number: 190' at ISO 100 and 105mm

This speedlight is much stronger than a vivitar 285 and it still can't hit f11 at 20' I get f11 at about 10'

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 16:37
Paint the background first, then shoot the boat.
This may be a possibility but not likely.

jp
12-Feb-2016, 16:44
The youguo specs are at 105mm which is zoomed out; it will be much less at wider angle, but probably comparable to the others. Must have a fresnel magnifier on it like the 285hv?

An old cheap studio strobe like a white lightning 10000 will have a GN of 220 and doesn't need the modeling light if you want to run it off inverter.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 16:48
The youguo specs are at 105mm which is zoomed out; it will be much less at wider angle, but probably comparable to the others. Must have a fresnel magnifier on it like the 285hv?

An old cheap studio strobe like a white lightning 10000 will have a GN of 220 and doesn't need the modeling light if you want to run it off inverter.
The vivitar specs are Guide Number: 141' at ISO 100 and 105mm.

I'd love to have 200+ at 35 or 50mm

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 17:01
I also have a cheap interfit moonlight which says 300ws. The gn for the interfit is 160 which is less than my speedlight. Can this be possible? The moonlight is much heavier at around 10 lbs shouldn't it be way more powerful than a speedlight?

What's even more interesting is that the speedlight produces roughly 80ws vs the moonlight which produces 300ws.

John Olsen
12-Feb-2016, 18:23
Rent a Honda 5000W generator and some strobes. It's heavy equipment, but some things can't be done on the cheap. Some rental shops will even ship the whole pile to your location.

RodinalDuchamp
12-Feb-2016, 18:38
Does anyone know where I can find this device?

I think the solution to my problem is flashbulbs

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