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formatoff
24-Nov-2014, 13:38
I bought a V_Heliar 480 f4.5 in old style but with no a lens hood.
If somebody has the same lens, I would glad to get detail sizes of the hood for making this one.

Ken Lee
24-Nov-2014, 13:57
Do view camera lenses have lens hoods ?

Old-N-Feeble
24-Nov-2014, 13:59
Do view camera lenses have lens hoods ?

Some came with lens hoods but I prefer a compendium shade.

formatoff
24-Nov-2014, 14:04
All my barrel lenses have... if I'm correct in terminology.
Some is deep, some not.

formatoff
24-Nov-2014, 14:07
I prefer a compendium shade (maybe "shade" more right name?) too but for modern lenses.

Armin Seeholzer
24-Nov-2014, 15:26
A compendium is even better for the old ones, a round shaped is always a strong compromise, because it would cropping the corners if they would be as long as the compendium!

Just my tow cts. Armin

plaubel
24-Nov-2014, 15:32
A compendium is even better for the old ones

Right, but a brass lens without her hood looks like a car without wheels :-)

Cheers,
Ritchie

formatoff
24-Nov-2014, 22:04
Totally agree with Ritchie!
Just I want to restore the original (or close to original) condition of the lens.

Tracy Storer
25-Nov-2014, 18:29
Some Heliars have removable shades, others are integral to the front mount. If it's damaged, you can bet it's built-in. :(
I wish I had a 480 to measure for you.....my 11.75" and 14" have hoods, my 42cm and 60cm do not...and no 480.

Jim Galli
25-Nov-2014, 20:51
Can we see a small picture of this lens. Most of the early 48cm Heliars (I've had 2) had the lens shade built into and integral with the front glass group. It didn't come off seperately. They are fragile and one trip to the floor will break them. Then it's common to simply trim what's left off and you end up with something like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Voigtlander-16-5in-4-5-Heliar-No-7-Barrel-Lens-66993-W-Air-Shutter-/370952559852?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item565e7edcec).

formatoff
25-Nov-2014, 22:01
Of course.
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formatoff
25-Nov-2014, 23:47
Tracy, V_Heliar 600 is a real gem! I saw it only once.
Was it in a modern style only or in an old too?

formatoff
25-Nov-2014, 23:56
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I hope my lens must be the same (with shade).

Tracy Storer
26-Nov-2014, 11:51
Tracy, V_Heliar 600 is a real gem! I saw it only once.
Was it in a modern style only or in an old too?

See it here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/13984186@N08/4060131552/in/set-72157619020277350

No shade, seems to be from 1922-23. Another member asked for the serial #, which I will share when I have a chance.

formatoff
26-Nov-2014, 12:51
Nice lens board for the Heliar!

Steven Tribe
28-Nov-2014, 15:54
Having seen the lens (post #11), I note that the thread is there - so all you need to do is to find an aluminium (or brass, painted black) section that is slightly larger. Then solder 3 flat pieces of softish solder inside on edge at 120 degree intervals. Than reduce the thickness of the solder, especialy at the edge with a curved file (careful - high lead content!). Then screw it carefully in over the the short existing male edge thread. The male thread will cut a quite clean female thread in the 3 sections.

This is easily strong enough to hold the lens hood on and can be removed. I have also used the system for flanges.

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
29-Nov-2014, 04:57
Bonjour Formatoff,

this is a picture from our 480er Heliar.

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Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (…he says: Heliar is a very big lens!)

formatoff
29-Nov-2014, 07:25
Hello Zappa, looks like mine.
Is the shade detached from front lens block?

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
29-Nov-2014, 12:19
Bonjour Formatoff,

Yes - you can unscrew the lens hood to the left.

Do you like a picture from the stand alone ring?

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (ůsays - he want to help you!)

formatoff
30-Nov-2014, 02:09
Yes, a Heliar is so amazing.
Would you like to inform to me about a deep and outside size of the shade?
Thanks!

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
1-Dec-2014, 09:09
Bonjour Formatoff,

Outside-diameter on top: 150,50 mm
Inside-diameter on top: 145,50 mm
Outside-high: 36,00 mm

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (…says: big glass for big show!)

formatoff
1-Dec-2014, 11:32
Good Evening,

Thank you so much for your help! I'll do that.

Best wishes.

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
2-Dec-2014, 01:13
Bonjour Formatoff,

What are you working with the Heliar? What kind of camera do you use?

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (…says: he loves big old cameras!)

formatoff
2-Dec-2014, 03:19
Good Day,

My cameras are 11x14" and 8x20".
Now I want to make the shade and to install the lens to my custom shutter.

Best.

formatoff
19-Jun-2015, 06:32
Now I finished my Heliar 480 project.
New lens cap, hood, retaining ring and handles.
Thank you all, special thanks for Zappa)..
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Jim Galli
19-Jun-2015, 08:09
Now I finished my Heliar 480 project.
New lens cap, hood, retaining ring and handles.
Thank you all, special thanks for Zappa)..


Bravo! Beautifully done.

formatoff
19-Jun-2015, 10:47
Thank you so much Jim)..