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Zappa und de kleine Tiger
24-Nov-2014, 09:09
Bonjour,

we look for the largest existing Voigtlander camera (of the world) and have already searched the whole web and so a lot of books. Who has seen somewhere at home or what? We would be grateful for any tip!

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (... says: Format is irreplaceable - except more format!)

Tracy Storer
25-Nov-2014, 09:51
Not a camera, but I have a Heliar 60cm, f/4.5.
Curious what your research will find....?

Tim Deming
25-Nov-2014, 11:00
If you are looking for cameras manufactured by Voigtlander, I believe the largest were 13x18cm format, such as the 1950's Studio Camera

cheers

Tim

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
26-Nov-2014, 14:08
Bonjour,

Voigtländer built travel wooden plate cameras in the following sizes:

(cm)

9 x 12
10 x 15
13 x 18
18 x 24
24 x 30
30 x 40
40 x 50

and the Grand Salon Apperat E

40 x 50
50 x 60
60 x 70
70 x 80
80 x 100

We are looking for a Voigtlander Camera 40 x 50 cm or greater.

If anyone has seen this one or pictures of it - please report ...

Thank you!

Thanks Tim & Tracy!

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (... says - he lives in the Rollei and Voigtlander city of Braunschweig in Germany!)

Steven Tribe
26-Nov-2014, 14:43
No, no and no!

Voigtländer did not make ANY wooden studio or Reisekameras.

The Voigtländer Report 3 by Claus Prochnow in Chapter 25 show a range of German-made cameras which is very close to your list . but these were made by others. The 13x18 mentioned by Tim is the only large format camera made by Voigtländer.

Steven Tribe
26-Nov-2014, 14:49
By the way, sizes larger than 30x40 (of which I have had 2) are very uncommon. These finished up in Printing establishments rather than ordinary Photography studiios and often suffered damage/drastic modifications.

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
27-Nov-2014, 11:30
Bonjour,

sorry - we wrote unclear:

Voigtländer bought the large wooden camera body and sold them with their lenses.

But under what name?

If you have an old (German) Wooden Camera 40 x 50 cm or larger with a Voigtlander lens?

Thanks for all the tips!

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (... says greater cooler!)

Steven Tribe
27-Nov-2014, 12:48
Here are some names:

Möbelschreiner Wenzel, Wien. 1840's

Pietro del Vecchio, Leipzig.
Edmund Gabory.
M.J.Landauer, Kassel.
G.Gakio Sohn. Frankfurt-a-m.
1850's

Later makers og the Reise/Atelier cameras were either "Unbekannter" or mostly Görlitz companies.

I stop at 30x40cm reisekameraer - but there a few owners of the 40x50cm here I think.

Emil Schildt
28-Nov-2014, 04:55
well - I have a German made 40x50 camera... When I got it it actually did have a Voigtländer lens fitted, but in too small size for that format....

So now it has another lens fitted (not the one on the picture - and old Jamin cone lens..)

Zappa und de kleine Tiger
28-Nov-2014, 12:20
Bonjour Steven,

thank you for the name of the camera manufacturer - who might have any information from the camera manufacturers from Dresden?

Bonjour Gandolfi,

Super - just to find a camera we seek. Do you have a photo of the side view and of the cassette? We would be very happy about it!

Thank you!

Salut,

by Zappa and the Little Tiger (…says can not get enough!)

Emil Schildt
28-Nov-2014, 12:30
I'll make some snaps for you.. (if I can find a digicamera...)

Steven Tribe
28-Nov-2014, 13:27
Here some important Görlitz photographic names:
I am certain the one's marked in bold made early cameras.


Paul Dittrich & Co. | Koppe & Moh | Max Hecht | Curt Bentzin | Ernst Herbst & Firl | Oscar Simon | Mlitz & Kügler | Gaertig & Thiemann | Gebr. Herbst | Kügler & Co. | Optisch-Mechanische-Industrie-Anstalt Hugo Meyer & Co. | Kamera-Werke Plamos Aktiengesellschaft | Krecker & Ehrentraut | Heinrich Eberlein | Alfred Lange | Paul Strobach | Secco-Film-Gesellschaft Dr.Adolf Hesekiel, Moh & Co. | Theodor Soennecken & JohannRiedl | Schulze & Billerbeck | Görlitzer Camera-Industrie Gustav Kügler & Co. | Görlitzer Camera-Werke Paul Quill | Richard Thiel | Robert Reinsch - Neue Görlitzer Camera-Werke | VEB Neue Görlitzer Kamerawerke (DDR?)| VEB Feinoptisches Werk Görlitz (DDR?)

There is a fun website for a society/museum at fotomuseum-goerlitz.de

There is also another interesting website on early lenses and cameras at Voigtländer' starting point in Vienna. photohistory.at.

Randy Moe
28-Nov-2014, 13:57
Here some important Görlitz photographic names:
I am certain the one's marked in bold made early cameras.


Paul Dittrich & Co. | Koppe & Moh | Max Hecht | Curt Bentzin | Ernst Herbst & Firl | Oscar Simon | Mlitz & Kügler | Gaertig & Thiemann | Gebr. Herbst | Kügler & Co. | Optisch-Mechanische-Industrie-Anstalt Hugo Meyer & Co. | Kamera-Werke Plamos Aktiengesellschaft | Krecker & Ehrentraut | Heinrich Eberlein | Alfred Lange | Paul Strobach | Secco-Film-Gesellschaft Dr.Adolf Hesekiel, Moh & Co. | Theodor Soennecken & JohannRiedl | Schulze & Billerbeck | Görlitzer Camera-Industrie Gustav Kügler & Co. | Görlitzer Camera-Werke Paul Quill | Richard Thiel | Robert Reinsch - Neue Görlitzer Camera-Werke | VEB Neue Görlitzer Kamerawerke (DDR?)| VEB Feinoptisches Werk Görlitz (DDR?)

There is a fun website for a society/museum at fotomuseum-goerlitz.de

There is also another interesting website on early lenses and cameras at Voigtländer' starting point in Vienna. photohistory.at.

Very good websites.

I like the design of, Lechner square enlarger "IDEAL"
in the form of sample cases 30x40. Putting lens mid frame and using rest for hood.

Thanks Steven.