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lfb
30-Oct-2014, 21:36
if i search wista in ebay there are some '45' model.

it is not written vx or sp in the title and description.

but the appearance is very similar with sp.

what is this model?

what is difference between vx,sp and 45?

Alan Gales
30-Oct-2014, 22:38
On the latest models with all black front standards the Wista 45SP is the same as the 45VX except the SP has a microfocus geared rear swing in addition to regular rear swing. The SP cost more than the VX new and was slightly heavier due to this feature. If you look at the side of the camera between the bellows and ground glass there are two chrome knobs on the SP and one on the VX. The top knob is for the microfocus swing. The earliest Wista 45SP which had a silver front standard did not have front swing but I heard that later models with silver front standards and of course the black front standards have front swing. All SP's have the microfocus rear swing.

There is also a Wista 45D model. It is an earlier model. I don't know much about it except it goes for less money. The Wista 45's that you see on Ebay that just say Wista 45 are most likely the 45D model.

lfb
31-Oct-2014, 08:26
45 and 45d have two knobs in the side of the camera.
is this means these models have micro swing?
and are they have front swing?

how can i distinguish between sp and 45d?
it looks really same to me.

Alan Gales
31-Oct-2014, 10:11
You got me real curious so I did some research. I think I may be wrong on one point that I told you.

It looks like the early Wista D's are trimmed with faux wood instead of black material on the sides. They are colored gold on some parts and they do not have front swing or microfocus rear swing. The later D's have the faux wood with no front swing but have the added microfocus rear swing.

I read where someone said they had an even later D with the black instead of faux wood without front swings. I thought the D's all had the faux wood trim and I didn't know that some D's had the microfocus rear swing. I have handled one of these black trimmed cameras and was told it was an SP. I guess the one I handled was either a D with black trim or an SP with no front swing. I would put my money on it being a D with black trim and the person was mistaken in what he told me.

Clear as mud right? :rolleyes:

Nissin
1-Nov-2014, 06:28
I think that you have the same model camera as mine. I have a black Wista with no front swing and no microfocus rear swing. This model, I believe, is the VX. Take a look at http://www.wista.co.jp/e_wista/e_show/e_camera/e_cpho2.htm

Bob Salomon
1-Nov-2014, 06:34
if i search wista in ebay there are some '45' model.

it is not written vx or sp in the title and description.

but the appearance is very similar with sp.

what is this model?

what is difference between vx,sp and 45?

Wista makes both metal and wood 45 cameras. In metal, recently, there were/are the VX, SP, and RF and several variations in Rosewood, Cherry, Quince and Ebony. So Wista 45 is far to general a search term. And, as mentioned, there was also the D plus a Wista 45 monorail.

Alan Gales
1-Nov-2014, 10:18
I think that you have the same model camera as mine. I have a black Wista with no front swing and no microfocus rear swing. This model, I believe, is the VX. Take a look at http://www.wista.co.jp/e_wista/e_show/e_camera/e_cpho2.htm

A VX without front swing, huh? Maybe the fellow was right and it was an SP without front swing that I handled. He claimed to be the original owner.

It's really hard to find information on the early metal Wistas.

Bob Salomon
1-Nov-2014, 10:35
A VX without front swing, huh? Maybe the fellow was right and it was an SP without front swing that I handled. He claimed to be the original owner.

It's really hard to find information on the early metal Wistas.
SP has front swings the same as the RF and VX

Alan Gales
1-Nov-2014, 21:31
SP has front swings the same as the RF and VX

Thanks Bob. I guess it was a late model D that I handled.

What model do you think Nissin has?

scm
1-Nov-2014, 22:05
The earlier metal Wista without front swing or rear micro-swing is the N. This page (http://chemicalcameras.wordpress.com/wista-45n/) has some good photos of an N.

The N was to the VX as the D is to the SP, earlier cameras that are pretty similar but without the front swing the later models have. They all, as far as I know, just have "Wista 45" on the name plate with no sub-model designation.

Bob Salomon
2-Nov-2014, 06:52
Thanks Bob. I guess it was a late model D that I handled.

What model do you think Nissin has?

No idea. We never were involved with any of the older models. Only with the current models.

Alan Gales
2-Nov-2014, 09:59
No idea. We never were involved with any of the older models. Only with the current models.

Thanks again, Bob.

I understand the differences in the current models but there is so little information on the early models out there. If buying an early model off Ebay an interested buyer might want to ask the Seller some questions first. I'd rather put my money towards a lightly used current model.

Nissin
3-Nov-2014, 01:40
The earlier metal Wista without front swing or rear micro-swing is the N. This page (http://chemicalcameras.wordpress.com/wista-45n/) has some good photos of an N.

The N was to the VX as the D is to the SP, earlier cameras that are pretty similar but without the front swing the later models have. They all, as far as I know, just have "Wista 45" on the name plate with no sub-model designation.

Thanks for the link and the info. I live in Japan and bought it on an on-line auction as a used VX. I've always been puzzled by the fact that the specs didn't match Wista's description. You live and learn!