Anybody recognize this camera?

[Bill_1856]

From the American Masters Dorothea Lange video.
Looks to me like a 9x12, but that front door action must be unique.
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[jcoldslabs]

I can't say for sure, but because of the triple extension bed, the shape of the bracket connecting the rear standard to the bed and the knurled knob on the front standard, my best guess would be a Zeiss Ikon Universal Juwel. It could be an earlier or later model, or maybe something else altogether. Many of the German folders of that period look remarkably similar.

One example (http://forum.mflenses.com/ica-zeiss-universal-juwel-9x12-plate-camera-t51165.html).

Another example (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcameramate.com%2Fimages%2F19700-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcameramate.com%2Fvintage%2F2-x-cameras-Universal-Juwel-w-angle-camera-Protar-Tessar-Hypergon-Protarlinse.html&h=891&w=1200&tbnid=wJwcSRKss0B8OM%3A&zoom=1&docid=X2qcA3fr5OtRaM&ei=Fv8EVNGDLY-pyATpgoHQCg&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ved=0CC4QMygSMBI&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=763&page=1&start=0&ndsp=22).

Jonathan

[Keith Fleming]

I believe it probably is a 1930's-40's Speed Graphic since that's part of a photo of Dorothea Lange from that era. The full photo has her on the top of a car, and you can see it among the photos in Mary Street Alinder's Ansel Adams: A Biography. I just finished re-reading the book today.

[jnantz]

looks like a folder .. the front standard framer / composition tool is a dead give away ...

[Teodor Oprean]

It can't be a Speed Graphic in the posted image. The shape of the front standard, the brilliant finder, the disconnected front bed, the shape of the main box -- all those details are completely different on a Speed Graphic (any Speed Graphic). The camera looks like a European 9x12 plate camera. It's difficult to be certain about the exact make and model.

[Teodor Oprean]

Here is a slightly higher resolution version of the image found with a google image search:

http://dodho.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dorothea-lange-by-paul-s-taylor-1934.jpg

[Teodor Oprean]

Zeiss Juwel seems to be the closest match.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5243201558_b01e3306b6_b.jpg

[Teodor Oprean]

Book reference: "Daring to Look: Dorothea Lange's Photographs and Reports from the Field" By Anne Whiston Spirn

Page 323 confirms that it is a Zeiss Juwel which produced 3.25 x 4.25 inch negatives.

[David Lindquist]

Book reference: "Daring to Look: Dorothea Lange's Photographs and Reports from the Field" By Anne Whiston Spirn

Page 323 confirms that it is a Zeiss Juwel which produced 3.25 x 4.25 inch negatives.

Thank you very much for this Teodor.
David

[charleymeyer]

Just to add to this old thread, I have a ICA/Zeiss Universal Palmos 9x12 that has the same rear balancing extension feature

[Tin Can]

Love this action shot!



Here is a slightly higher resolution version of the image found with a google image search:

http://dodho.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dorothea-lange-by-paul-s-taylor-1934.jpg

[Jim Noel]

I believe it probably is a 1930's-40's Speed Graphic since that's part of a photo of Dorothea Lange from that era. The full photo has her on the top of a car, and you can see it among the photos in Mary Street Alinder's Ansel Adams: A Biography. I just finished re-reading the book today.

It definitely is not a Speed Graphic.

[Jim Noel]

I think of all the cameras I have owned, or sold, it is more likely to be a JEwel than any other. Mine had a triple convertible lens mounted on a quick release plate.The length of her bellows extension would indicate a longer than normal lens.

[Tin Can]

I have a Trona 212 1/4 plate folder which is delightful, small with 3 plate holders in OE case

The whole kit is smaller than a Century Graphic

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Better view of the Universal Juwel or Universal Palmos - it is the model with the 9x12cm format:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/97/bd/4797bd48f26c896f9eb4011ea5884a46.jpg

[MauroScacco]

A Ica zeiss Jul - 13-18 with Goertz Doppel-Anastigmat Serie III Dagor 6.8/180mm

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51232418304_43a3e4029c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m4ex3Y)Ica Jul (https://flic.kr/p/2m4ex3Y) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

Maybe Jul is the short version of Juwel?

[Bessa72]

Just to add to this old thread, I have a ICA/Zeiss Universal Palmos 9x12 that has the same rear balancing extension feature

thats right, I also had a Ica Universal Palmos. This and the Juwel have this special back extension. And definitley not a Graflex.

[Ron (Netherlands)]

A Ica zeiss Jul - 13-18 with Goertz Doppel-Anastigmat Serie III Dagor 6.8/180mm

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51232418304_43a3e4029c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m4ex3Y)Ica Jul (https://flic.kr/p/2m4ex3Y) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

Maybe Jul is the short version of Juwel?

This is the ICA made for stereo (and you could use it also as a mono/panorama like in this picture); I think its predecessor made by Emil Wünsche was called the Reicka camera:

https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0917/12/ica-reicka-stereo-panorama-10x15cm_1_c8a8b3f07a8d3cd19192ee77281df53b.jpg

its not the camera used by Lange

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Better view of the Universal Juwel or Universal Palmos - it is the model with the 9x12cm format:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/97/bd/4797bd48f26c896f9eb4011ea5884a46.jpg

Photo is mirrored; strap sat at the right side of the camera looking from the front...
...its seems her camera had its bellows clips removed...or never had them

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lange.jpg?w=1569

Universal Palmos 275:

https://www.fk-secondhand.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/051381_ica_universal_palmos_275_mit_tessars_15cm_45_575659_01.jpg

[MauroScacco]

Zeiss Ikon Universal Juwel 275/11 13x18 - film holders 737/11 ( the same are for my Ica Jul 13x18 )
searching a lens board for istalling a fine tessar 180 mm

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51558468299_3a6d38e562_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CmB)Ica Juwel Zeiss Ikon 275/11 13x18 (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CmB) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51558703900_feded1913d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2my4QoG)Ica Juwel Zeiss Ikon (https://flic.kr/p/2my4QoG) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51558468829_a17fe1846b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CvK)Universal Juwel 275/11 Zeiss Ikon (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CvK) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

[Ron (Netherlands)]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51558468829_a17fe1846b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CvK)Universal Juwel 275/11 Zeiss Ikon (https://flic.kr/p/2my3CvK) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

Very nice sample Mauro, does this also have the 'automatic' back, i.e. you can turn it clockwise or counter clockwise to easy shift from horizontal to vertical view?

[MauroScacco]

Very nice sample Mauro, does this also have the 'automatic' back, i.e. you can turn it clockwise or counter clockwise to easy shift from horizontal to vertical view? Sure, correct is counterclockwise 🙂

[MauroScacco]

Founded also the little one, 275/7 for 9x12 size, family complete :-)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51577719438_e891d535f7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mzKi3N)s-l1600 (https://flic.kr/p/2mzKi3N) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Founded also the little one, 275/7 for 9x12 size, family complete :-)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51577719438_e891d535f7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mzKi3N)s-l1600 (https://flic.kr/p/2mzKi3N) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

Very nice specimen: did you get it with the matching plateholders? The 12x9 holders seem to be more rare than the 10x15 and the 13x18 holders - took me several years to find two (one with ICA and one with Zeiss logo) - but sold them together with a very fine ICA Favorit 9x12. Here's a picture of my collection of German plateholders before I sold the two (seen second from the right side):

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50821546273_c0a54efba0_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kqVH7r)
German double plateholders (https://flic.kr/p/2kqVH7r) by Ron (Netherlands) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zorki_2007/), on Flickr

[MauroScacco]

Very nice specimen: did you get it with the matching plateholders? The 12x9 holders seem to be more rare than the 10x15 and the 13x18 holders - took me several years to find two (one with ICA and one with Zeiss logo) - but sold them together with a very fine ICA Favorit 9x12. Here's a picture of my collection of German plateholders before I sold the two (seen second from the right side):

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50821546273_c0a54efba0_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kqVH7r)
German double plateholders (https://flic.kr/p/2kqVH7r) by Ron (Netherlands) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zorki_2007/), on Flickr

Very bad news, no film holder with camera for us, it will be an interesting search in the future, also 13x18 one's seemed nowhere to be found, now I have 4, like the search for the Holy Grail roughly ... :)
(fine collection yours ! )

[MauroScacco]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51835710276_5688337b1f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mYxyJG)DSC02969 (https://flic.kr/p/2mYxyJG) by Mauro Scacco (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauroscaccophotography/), su Flickr

Zeiss ikon Universal Juwel rare 13x18
perfect ready platten Kamera 13x18 close to 100 years old, today unobtainable, jewel for collection and use
Ansel Adam's preferred model with 4 rare plates
with rare Schneider Angulon 165 f 6,8
perfect checked and revised
covers up to 8 "x10" format, ideal for camera movements

[richard700]

[QUOTE=MauroScacco;1617254]Zeiss Ikon Universal Juwel 275/11 13x18 - film holders 737/11 ( the same are for my Ica Jul 13x18 )
searching a lens board for istalling a fine tessar 180 mm

Will the Tessar 180mm cover 13x18 at infinity?
When I have some free time, I'm going to try 3d printing a lens board - it is not just a simply flat metal board.
I am currently looking for original lenses (see attachment).
I have an age correct 210mm Zeiss Tessar 4.5 in a Compound shutter, but it comes up too short to match the infinity stop on the track - I do not see any way to adjust the stop - I guess the original lens was supplied in a Compur shutter.