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buggz
27-Jul-2014, 10:51
Hello,
What's the fastest speed shutter that is available?
Guess I need to pick out a lens size first.
Oh, and what is the fastest shutter, period? Obtainable, or not.
Just wondering out loud...

IanG
27-Jul-2014, 11:12
1/1000 of a second, a Thornton Pickard Focal plane shutter, well that's the fastest LF shutter I have at the moment.

Ian

Brian C. Miller
27-Jul-2014, 11:13
Fastest current shutter: Copal 0 press shutter, 1/500th second.
Fastest shutter ever: Rapatronic camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera)

Bob Salomon
27-Jul-2014, 11:15
Rollei Linear Motor view camera shutters are the current fastest leaf shutters. The 0 size goes to the same speed as a Copal 0. In a 1 size the Copal 1 is faster.

mdarnton
27-Jul-2014, 11:18
Fastest production between the lens shutter: the Super Speed Graphic and Super Graphic's Graflex 1000 shutter: 1/1000.
http://graflex.org/manuals/Graflex-1000-Shutter.pdf

The blades did not open and return closed as in a normal BTL shutter, but each blade simply moved around a pivot in a complete rotation.

Bob Salomon
27-Jul-2014, 11:31
Fastest current shutter: Copal 0 press shutter, 1/500th second.
Fastest shutter ever: Rapatronic camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera)

The Linhof Aerotronica had shutter speeds to 1/1500 via a special rotary Linhof shutter built into the camera body. But this was a 70mm camera, not a view camera.

Dan Fromm
27-Jul-2014, 12:10
Fastest current shutter: Copal 0 press shutter, 1/500th second.
Fastest shutter ever: Rapatronic camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera)

Brian, my Copal press shutters don't agree with you. #0 and #1 have the same top speed, 1/125. Prontor Press #00, #0 and #1 are the same. Cock and shoots are another matter, #00 and #0, 1/500, #1, 1/400, and larger than that slower. My Compound #5's fastest marked speed is 1/50.

buggz, what do you have in mind to do that needs a fast shutter speed? My solution to the problem is to overpower ambient light with flash. Sslow film helps, ND filters will do the same but I don't like to use them.

Bob Salomon
27-Jul-2014, 12:32
Fastest current shutter: Copal 0 press shutter, 1/500th second.
Fastest shutter ever: Rapatronic camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera)

No Press shutter from Prontor went to 1/500. The fastest Prontor Press type shutter was the Prontor Professional. And that didn't reach a 500th either.

buggz
27-Jul-2014, 12:51
Hi Dan, I like to shoot close up wide open.
Yes, I had thought of ND filters as well.
I may have to go this route, though, not all lenses have filter mounts.
Holding the filter to lens can lead to reflections, and also, I don't want the lens bodies touching the ND glass.
Shrug...

Good discussion with good info, thanks guys!

Jac@stafford.net
27-Jul-2014, 13:10
Fastest production between the lens shutter: the Super Speed Graphic and Super Graphic's Graflex 1000 shutter: 1/1000.
http://graflex.org/manuals/Graflex-1000-Shutter.pdf

Yes, but perhaps it is just my bad luck that I've never found one that was not broken.
.

Jac@stafford.net
27-Jul-2014, 13:12
Hi Dan, I like to shoot close up wide open.
Yes, I had thought of ND filters as well.
I may have to go this route, though, not all lenses have filter mounts.

True, but we have been coping with that forever. There are a number of ways to mount a filter on any lens I know of. Hang in there!
.

Bob Salomon
27-Jul-2014, 13:14
Fastest production between the lens shutter: the Super Speed Graphic and Super Graphic's Graflex 1000 shutter: 1/1000.
http://graflex.org/manuals/Graflex-1000-Shutter.pdf

The blades did not open and return closed as in a normal BTL shutter, but each blade simply moved around a pivot in a complete rotation.

Actually, on a 4x5, this is correct. But then there are the Rollei Linear Motor Leaf Shutters on their PQS lenses and those shutters went to 1/1000 at all apertures, even 2.8 and 2.0 on the high speed lenses.

Liquid Artist
27-Jul-2014, 17:57
I may have to go this route, though, not all lenses have filter mounts.
Holding the filter to lens can lead to reflections, and also, I don't want the lens bodies touching the ND glass.
Shrug...

Isn't that why Kodak came up with the Series Filter system?
As far as I know they made an adapter to fit every common style lens.

Jac@stafford.net
27-Jul-2014, 18:14
Speaking of Linhof, a focal plane shutter just sold on the 'bay for US $545.25. I think the buyer would have bid to the moon for it. By Bob's much earlier advice, it's a risky item.
.

Dan Fromm
28-Jul-2014, 03:43
Jac, I think the OP was asking about leaf shutters, not focal plane shutters.

There are a fair number (cameras produced, models brought to market) of 2x3 (6x9 in metric) SLRs with focal plane shutters whose top speeds are at least 1/1000, also press cameras. None of their shutters will sync with electronic flash at high speeds but if that isn't what the OP wants to do then one of them might do what he needs.

Emmanuel BIGLER
28-Jul-2014, 11:14
For their line of 6x6 SLRs, Rollei has developed an electronic leaf shutter that is as fast as 1/1000s. This shutter is fitted inside PQS lenses.
But this fast shutter, to the best of my knowledge, is not sold separately; and available leaf shutters from Rollei in sizes 0 (1/500s) and 1 (1/300s) for view cameras do not reach 1/1000s.
More about those products here on the web page of DWH Fototechnic, the small company fabricating some of Rollei-branded products for professional photography.
DHW Fototechnik is located in Braunschweig, Germany, in the historical Rollei buildings.
Rollei PQS lenses. (http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/en/mediumformatlenses.html)
Rollei electronic leaf shutters. (http://www.dhw-fototechnik.de/en/bellows-camera/electronicshutter.html)

Jac@stafford.net
28-Jul-2014, 15:24
Jac, I think the OP was asking about leaf shutters, not focal plane shutters..

Pardon my poor read of the OP. If I were doing LF macro then electronic flash would be my exposure determinate.

I appreciate the correction, Dan.

Chauncey Walden
28-Jul-2014, 16:49
Jac, the problem is he wants to shoot wide open so it's either fast shutters, ND filters, or SLOW film.