Cart or Stroller to Transport a Sinar F2

[RedSun]

I searched the forum and still do not get an answer yet.

I have a Sinar F2 and I'd like to transport it. This will be mainly in town, gravel trails and dirt trails. No airport travel. Mountain travel is not a factor here.

I already have both the Sinar hard case for the F2 and the Lightware V4000 case. I somehow like the Lightware better. The setup includes the F2, 2 extra lenses, 5-10 film holders, meter and Gitzo 3530 tripod.

So I'm thinking about a 2-wheel dollies or cart (brand and type?). I'll consider the baby stroller. Not sure if the stroller is good to transport the case(s) I already get.
Thx.

[Alan Gales]

How about this?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006P5JI5M/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0000E1OSU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0X0Z5ZV3XD10P1NSV0GC

[Kirk Gittings]

I doubt it but look at this on strollers http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?90409-Adapted-baby-jogger-for-hauling-gear

[Alan Gales]

Dirt trails aren't bad unless they are rutted by erosion. Gravel can be a real bitch to push or pull something over depending upon how deep it is.

[Richard Johnson]

On pavement, as in roads, office buildings, airports, etc. many professional photographers use the folding aluminum luggage carts sold by B&H, etc. Something like the "Wesco Maxi Mover Folding Handtruck".

But the wheels would be too small for off road rugged stuff. Most people would take the camera out of the large case and learn how to pack it smaller. I know when I had Sinars I would sometimes put them in a soft-sided insulated case (like for beer) and then I could place it into something like a baby stroller. Because if you really want to take that beautiful Lightware case down a gravel road, your only practical option is a wheelbarrow.

The other option is to take all the money you would spend on cases, strollers, etc. and simply buy a 3# Chamonix.

[John Koehrer]

A three wheeled jogging stroller. They usually have 20" wheels, and balloon tires.
The ability to tilt the cart back to go over large roots or rocks is a big plus considering
that with a two wheeled cart you're effectively lifting it over the obstruction.

I see them in the local Goodwill for $20-$50 and I think that's hard to beat.

[HMG]

If the jogging stroller won't work for you, consider a game cart like this (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Alum-i-Lite-Game-Cart/1206645.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dcart%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=cart&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products).

[Drew Bedo]

I got an inexpensive golf bag pull cart and cut off part of the bottom. Then bolted on a back pack frame. A camera bag is strapped onto the frame. Tows along pretty well and stands up nearly straight.
The wheels are big enough to handle , well . . .a golf vourse. Inspiration for this project came from LFP member, "Dr. Trang" http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/

Or you could spend some money and get one of these:
[url]http://www.feisol.com/0823photocart.html

Please, everyone: I mean the CART not the model!

[Tin Can]

I'm mostly in a big city. I use a bicycle trailer for shopping and carrying my C1 and tripod. Terrain seldom become too tough to ride over and if it does I walk the bike and trailer to location.

My trailer has 2 wheel placements. One is for towing and the other places the wheels at the rear for using as a dolly. I use a Radical Design Cyclone bare trailer, but the Dutch company also makes a walking trailer. Nice design and execution on all their things. I bought mine in winter on sale...

https://www.radicaldesign.nl/en/products/walking-trailers

[Kirk Gittings]

One advantage to my baby jogger rig over a golf cart is that the bag doesn't sit upright-it sits pretty flat and you can work right out of the jogger.

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[RedSun]

How about this?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006P5JI5M/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0000E1OSU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0X0Z5ZV3XD10P1NSV0GC

No, this thing weights a ton...

[RedSun]

Since I already have the cases, particularly the Lightware, I figure it is better to get a dolly type of cart, or the luggage type cart. For off-pavement, big wheeler is better? A medium weight would be good, not too heavy, not too light.

[Ari]

Since you already have the cases, you can get this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/43600-REG/Remin_S600_Super_600_Cart.html

I've had mine for 12 years and it looks battered, but works flawlessly.

[Alan Gales]

No, this thing weights a ton...

Shipping weight is 75 pounds. Shoot, a few guys on here use lenses that weigh more than that! ;)

I thought it would be nice for hauling my 8x10, Ries tripod, lawn chair, and small cooler but the wagon won't fit in my Jeep Wrangler. I can barely fit the other stuff in there! You would probably need a truck or SUV to haul it around.

[Kirk Gittings]

Since I already have the cases, particularly the Lightware, I figure it is better to get a dolly type of cart, or the luggage type cart. For off-pavement, big wheeler is better? A medium weight would be good, not too heavy, not too light.
IMHO you are hauling a studio camera out to the field. I know that is what you have and you should put it to use but its a boat anchor! Read this thread for some other opinions: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?74229-Sinar-F2-Too-Heavy-For-Field-Work

[Tin Can]

I have an older one of those also, I mainly use it for hauling laundry, my version has fairly small wheels that do not work well anywhere there is a bump or slant.

It folds up small and the built in bungees are nice.




Since you already have the cases, you can get this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/43600-REG/Remin_S600_Super_600_Cart.html

I've had mine for 12 years and it looks battered, but works flawlessly.

[Trevor Whitaker]

I carted my P2 in its hard case in this for a while:
http://www.amazon.com/Folding-Wagon-EasyGoWagon-Brand-Utility/dp/B00GT2VMAU/

I still use it to haul my photo and lighting equipment on location. Folds up nicely to fit in my car.

[Alan Gales]

IMHO you are hauling a studio camera out to the field. I know that is what you have and you should put it to use but its a boat anchor!]

I think when Sinar named it F for field they meant for architecture jobs in the city and not for carrying it distances over rough country. :)

[Scott Davis]

I have a folding dolly from Costco that has been fine for urban use. I wouldn't use it off-road, or at least not more than say 50 feet from the car, but for hauling something around city streets even with broken sidewalks and frost heaves, it's been fine so long as you have adequate bungee cables or security straps securing the load to the cart.

[jon.oman]

How about something like this:

http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_1098806_-1?ICID=CRT:025822206P

They give the size, but not the weight.....

[RedSun]

Since you already have the cases, you can get this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/43600-REG/Remin_S600_Super_600_Cart.html

I've had mine for 12 years and it looks battered, but works flawlessly.

I think this one looks fine. I can't take 4 wheelers because of the size and I don't plan to carry more than the minimum I'd need. There are also some other types of 2 wheelers at B&H, and they all look somehow similar.

[Ari]

They are similar, but go by maximum load and folded size/weight.
The one I linked to is closest to what I have.

[Andrew O'Neill]

Trust me on this one. You don't want something with tiny wheels, especially for going over gravel and dirt. The best transporter I ever had was a 3-wheeled baby stroller.

[Bob Mann]

Trust me on this one. You don't want something with tiny wheels, especially for going over gravel and dirt. The best transporter I ever had was a 3-wheeled baby stroller.

Totally agree, the bigger the wheel the better whether you push it or pull it.

[HeinrichVoelkel]

buy this http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Outdoor-Accessories/Trolleys-for-Transportation/Eckla-Beach-Rolly-Transport-Trolley-for-heavy-Equipment::2878.html?language=en

perfect and made for photographers

[HeinrichVoelkel]

this is the homepage of the maker http://www.eckla.de/en/eckla-beach-rolly-models.html

practical accessories for photographers here: http://www.eckla.de/en/eckla-beach-rolly-accessoires.html

[NancyP]

Just think, with the three-wheel stroller, not only will you have people staring at you while you photograph something, but they will be staring at you while you drag your gear to the location ;)

[Dirk Rösler]

Have you considered cycling with a trailer?

http://www.amazon.com/Croozer-Designs-Cargo-Bicycle-Trailer/dp/B000P7NJZQ/ref=pd_sbs_sg_6

[Bob Salomon]

If all you are transporting is a basic F2 with just a 12" rail why even use it? Just get a good, basic field camera like a Wista and carry the whole outfit over your shoulder or in a back pack. Not including the tripod, of course.

[Peter De Smidt]

Heinrich, the Eckla device looks good.

When I do commercial shoots, I have to cart a lot of gear by myself, including strobes, light stands, sand bags, cords...... Currently I use one of these: http://www.shoulderdolly.com/2011/08/7-reasons-why-shoulder-dolly-is-more-effective-than-a-moving-dolly/ Ok...I use one of the red wheeled dollies pictured. I don't use the shoulder dolly.

I then stack covered plastic cases on the front and bungee them to the frame. In back I've created a bin that holds light stands, tripod..... The big pneumatic wheels are nice, and this rig lets me go through standard doors easily. I'm not saying that this is the best choice. It's pretty heavy, and it doesn't fold down at all. (I'm taking about 150 lbs. of gear along, and so sturdiness is important.) It wasn't expensive.

[Richard Johnson]

It would be cool to find a dolly like that which could also be used a ladder, as well providing a tube to carry light stands and a large tripod. It would be excellent for urban/trail work with big cameras....

[John Kasaian]

I thought it was long ago agreed upon on this forum that the Swedish Bikini Team was best for carrying our LF gear in the field?

[HeinrichVoelkel]

old fart, old dreams

[Drew Bedo]

Which brings us back to:

http://www.feisol.com/0823photocart.html
This time I do not mean the cart!

[Kirk Gittings]

Just think, with the three-wheel stroller, not only will you have people staring at you while you photograph something, but they will be staring at you while you drag your gear to the location ;)
:) yep that's why I modified mine so it would look totally dorky.116767

[Alan Gales]

:) yep that's why I modified mine so it would look totally dorky.116767

Kirk, you forgot your matching red soft side cooler full of beer!

[cowanw]

Or this
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?114144-FS-Ultimate-quot-Field-Wagon-Stroller-quot-Nordic-Cab-with-110-pound-load-capacity!

[Victor Loverro]

Here are some options.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_13?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=folding%20beach%20wagon&sprefix=folding+beach%2Caps%2C234
If the link does not work, look under "folding beach wagon" on Amazon.
I prefer a 3 or 4 wheel cart to a 2 wheel for heavy loads. With a two wheel, you have to lift the load as well as pull it.