Whole Plate Septums ?

[Jim C.]

Is there such a thing as a metal septum to convert whole plate holders to film holders ?

[Jim Noel]

I have beenin LF since the 40's and I have never seen one for whole plate. The most likely location would be in Europe.

[IanG]

There were film holder inserts made but so far I've not seen/found any larger than 5x4. I bought some sheet metal to make some almost a year ago but haven't got around to it (no workshop space as I've sold my own house). I could use hafl plate and whole (full) plate adapters.

Ian

[Tin Can]

Wasn't there 2 whole plate to 5x7 film converters recently on eBay?

I lost track of them.

[Vaughn]

I have seen them for 6.5" x 8.5" (is that 'whole plate'?) and 8x10. Sent a couple NOS (or at least never used) 6.5 x 8.5 to a friend not long ago.

PS -- the 'converters' I have many of.

[Sevo]

13*18 and 18*24cm do occasionally turn up hereabouts, but I've never seen any outside the German film size series. Given the time line of photographic materials, I suspect that most original holders on still used WP cameras had already been replaced or converted to 18*24cm before the conversion from plates to film, so sheaths for the older sizes will be rare indeed.

[Jim C.]

I've seen metal septum's for 4x5, 5x7 that go into wood inserts, possibly 8x10, for 8x10 plate holders
but i've never looked for those. Whole plate 6.5x8.5 seems non existent from my searches on the intarwebs.


Wasn't there 2 whole plate to 5x7 film converters recently on eBay?

I meant whole plate glass holders to whole plate cut /sheet film in whole plate holders.

[Steven Tribe]

I have full plate sheaths - not many though.

[goamules]

I've got a couple, but can't spare a square. I also have some wholeplate to 5x7 ones. They require a thin wood adapter.

[redrockcoulee]

I have two different types of Eastman Whole Plate septums, one with ribs and one without. Have been thinking of seeing if a local metal working shop can reproduce the non-ribbed ones as I could use at least half a dozen of them

[David Karp]

I have some Eastman septums too. They pop up rarely.

[Peter Gomena]

Some recently turned up, along with several whole plate glass plate holders, at Pacific Rim Camera's site. They may still be there. I am not in any way affiliated with Pacific Rim Camera.

[Oren Grad]

I have some. Most of mine came inserted in plate holders, but I picked up a few separately as well.

[goamules]

Take a piece of aluminum trophy plate (we wetplaters have a lot), bend and curl the edges in. Glue a piece of matboard onto the back to approximate the thickness of the old glass plates, and voila! you have a film adapter.

[Jim C.]

Well, searching for sheaths as opposed to septums makes a world of difference, duh !
I'll have to try to make some out of aluminum sheet, if none pop up in the usual places.
Thanks for all the replies!

[Steven Tribe]

The advantage with book plate holders (if you have them!) is that they don't need a sheath. Just open the holder, pop in the sheet film (emulsion out) and then use thin metal/plastic sheet to hold the film tight on all edges using the orginal spring(s).

[Oren Grad]

Well, searching for sheaths as opposed to septums makes a world of difference, duh !

Ahhhh, precisely. Just grabbed one of mine, it's labeled "No. 3 EASTMAN FILM SHEATH 6 1/2 x 8 1/2".

[DannL]

Jim, are you using book form plate holders, those that open like a book?

[Jim C.]

DannL, nope I've got regular wood double darkslide whole plate holders.

[DannL]

DannL, nope I've got regular wood double darkslide whole plate holders.


Ahhh. That would require a different strategy. In a pinch, you can make sheaths from cardstock and insert them into some of these holders. Just thought I'd mention.

[rjmeyer314]

I miked some film sheaths that I had (I have and use several sizes). The metal measured 0.015", or 15 mils. I have brought 15 mil brass shim stock online and made film sheaths for sizes that I couldn't find on Ebay.