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Steven Tribe
26-Sep-2013, 11:30
This is a current listing, described as a Ross Cabinet no. 3. In reality, it is a no-name largish Portrait Petzval, marketed by W.Watson with his serial number.
He has something of a stubborn streak as he replies to me after pointing this out:

" It was sold to me as a Ross Lens by an antique lens dealer in London, so
that's what I am selling it as."

Now he says nothing about the glass in the listing, so he couldn't have been surprised by the published question:


"Q: how about the glass of this lens,THANKS
A: Yes, there is a lot of it. "

No comment necessary.

pierre506
26-Sep-2013, 11:59
No comment, too.

Emil Schildt
26-Sep-2013, 12:09
hmm - yes - I just noticed an auction (not LF) on a Voigtländer Brilliant Mf camera with a Skopar lens....

It didn't sell for his (far too high) reserve, so he re submitted it as a "Voigtländer Large format 6x9 Bergheil folding camera with a Heliar lens"... and it sold....:confused:

Brassai
26-Sep-2013, 15:24
hmm - yes - I just noticed an auction (not LF) on a Voigtländer Brilliant Mf camera with a Skopar lens....

It didn't sell for his (far too high) reserve, so he re submitted it as a "Voigtländer Large format 6x9 Bergheil folding camera with a Heliar lens"... and it sold....:confused:

If someone sold me something as badly misrepresented as that, I'd kill him with negative feedback and file a complaint.

Jim C.
26-Sep-2013, 15:45
There's a bright side to this, since he's sabotaged his auction, there's a nice Watson portrait petzval to be had for cheap ;)

adelorenzo
26-Sep-2013, 17:57
Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BIG-Whole-Plate-CC-Harrison-NY-Daguerreotype-Lens-Tube-w-Flange-Hood-/111164815291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e1f077bb&_uhb=1)!

Ari
26-Sep-2013, 18:05
Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BIG-Whole-Plate-CC-Harrison-NY-Daguerreotype-Lens-Tube-w-Flange-Hood-/111164815291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e1f077bb&_uhb=1)!

"...this lens very good but without glass elements!"

I, too, have an 8x10 Ebony for sale for $7500; it's just missing both standards and the focusing track, but it's a great camera.

Mark Sawyer
26-Sep-2013, 22:19
Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BIG-Whole-Plate-CC-Harrison-NY-Daguerreotype-Lens-Tube-w-Flange-Hood-/111164815291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e1f077bb&_uhb=1)!

Think of it as a very fast vintage pinhole...

Steven Tribe
27-Sep-2013, 01:37
Lens VM implies that these Cabinet Portrait series were instigated by Watson, himself. Which could explain the presence of a serial number. The Ross/Watson lens I have, has a very clear "Sold by Watson & Sons". Glass is 3" and the focal length is 10" on these.

N Dhananjay
27-Sep-2013, 05:43
Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BIG-Whole-Plate-CC-Harrison-NY-Daguerreotype-Lens-Tube-w-Flange-Hood-/111164815291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e1f077bb&_uhb=1)!

Well, think about it - it was, after all, that very rare thing that turns up at auction. A lens that does not have any 'cleaning wisps' that do not affect image quality....

Steven Tribe
28-Sep-2013, 00:44
The Watson lister has, in retrospect, decided to reconsider his listing.