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redshift
25-Aug-2013, 06:46
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horseman-L45-4x5-Large-Format-monorail-Camera/251324422539?_trksid=p2045573.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D298%26meid%3D818362646472880366%26pid%3D100034%26prg%3D1079%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D281156526529%26

I don't need another 4x5 but it seems like a great price.

vinny
25-Aug-2013, 07:01
sometimes horrible photography is a sign that the seller doesn't know what they are selling or they're hiding the defects.

Tin Can
25-Aug-2013, 08:39
I wouldn't bother with such a poor salesman. Consider the better version I am watching. I have both. Just watching.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190886704867?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

redshift
25-Aug-2013, 09:03
I wouldn't bother with such a poor salesman. Consider the better version I am watching. I have both. Just watching.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190886704867?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Nice! I won't bid against you:) Seems to be plenty of bidders already but pretty stingy.

redshift
25-Aug-2013, 09:05
I bought a camera from Florida that had mildew. Anything from the damp states can be musty or moldy. I guess you might find sand in cameras from the beach or desert, radioactivity from Kiev or Los Alamos or around the Japanese nuclear plant, toxicity from China or Eastern Europe.

Buyer Beware!

My first read came out "I bought a camera from that mildew". I thought you knew the seller :)

Tin Can
25-Aug-2013, 09:18
Please bid, I am NOT bidding.

They are very nice, very precise, very sturdy cameras.

Sinar lens boards and bellows also fit.

I bet the LX will not go much above $300. I bought my L for $115.

GOOD LUCK!


Nice! I won't bid against you:) Seems to be plenty of bidders already but pretty stingy.

John Kasaian
25-Aug-2013, 12:19
If there is nothing wrong with it, it's probably a good camera. Especially is tt is the kind of camera you're wanting (monorail, with lots of numbers.) Of course you might find a Graphic View II for half that price, OR a Calumet 400 for 1/3rd of that price (monorail, no numbers) so if price is the pivotal factory, you may be able to do better.

Jim C.
25-Aug-2013, 13:11
I bought a camera from Florida that had mildew. Anything from the damp states can be musty or moldy. I guess you might find sand in cameras from the beach or desert, radioactivity from Kiev or Los Alamos or around the Japanese nuclear plant, toxicity from China or Eastern Europe.

Buyer Beware!

I wouldn't say that any camera from a " damp state" would be musty and moldy, it would depend on how and where it was stored.
I've purchased some real gems, and stinkers ( literally ) off the Bay, unfortunately it's the game you play when you
purchase stuff without being able to physically examining it.

Stay away from Aero Ektars if you're worried about radiation ;)

Nathan Potter
25-Aug-2013, 19:21
I've used the Horseman L45 sparingly and found it to be a very nice camera. I'd consider it more of a studio camera than field camera but I know a few hardy souls who use it in the field.

The crappy pictures don't show much but it looks reasonably clean.

Nate Potter, Austin TX.

goodfood
25-Aug-2013, 19:49
Last week I am in Tokyo Bic Camera, they dump the Horseman accessories out. 6X9 film holder for around us$80, bag bellow for us$38, ground grass with holder for us$4 which is the only item I bought, the others no one look at it. All are new in box. Look like the end of large format day.

Cornelius
26-Aug-2013, 14:21
It's probably perfectly fine. Rail cameras are usually less expensive. Horsemans are make great ones though.

grantflanagan
27-Aug-2013, 20:57
Since we're ebaying away here, theres a saber online with 50 plus watchers now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321188433176

keithboston
2-Sep-2013, 05:17
So, did you get it? What are your thoughts on it? I purchased 3 LF cameras on ebay, all had pinholes in the bellows despite sellers telling me they're perfect.

redshift
2-Sep-2013, 07:09
So, did you get it? What are your thoughts on it? I purchased 3 LF cameras on ebay, all had pinholes in the bellows despite sellers telling me they're perfect.

I didn't bid. Really didn't need another 4x5.

A lot of sellers don't know what they are selling. I usually look at their feedback or other items they are selling. If they have one camera for sale and then a bunch of doll dresses and velvet Elvis paintings I bid with extreme caution.

Alan Gales
2-Sep-2013, 12:47
A lot of sellers don't know what they are selling. I usually look at their feedback or other items they are selling. If they have one camera for sale and then a bunch of doll dresses and velvet Elvis paintings I bid with extreme caution.


;) +1

keithboston
5-Sep-2013, 17:39
I didn't bid. Really didn't need another 4x5.

A lot of sellers don't know what they are selling. I usually look at their feedback or other items they are selling. If they have one camera for sale and then a bunch of doll dresses and velvet Elvis paintings I bid with extreme caution.

I'm done buying anything with bellows on the site...