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Tin Can
26-May-2013, 10:59
I see many cameras and camera accessories I want but cannot afford or pick up. I am not very patient, but sometimes we get what we desire.

I am going to start with a ebay listing that is pickup only, 2000 miles away.

While I would really prefer a linhof Gigant but this tiny (NOT) studio stand would be great to use with my Linhof Kardan Color 8X10, which no one seems to ever think is a good camera. There is one of those for sale also, and not selling for 3 listings. Sad. :(

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111079353605&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Here is the Gigant, it is clutching the following camera.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400459147313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I actually have this camera, it is great and great big, I can barely mount it in one piece. lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-Kardan-Color-8x10-Beautful/130915642222?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D7935291868591874240%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D130913024680%26

Jac@stafford.net
26-May-2013, 11:27
A 'sky camera' I built long ago. It takes 8x10" sheet film, uses a 6" Metrogon lens.
It is too large to insert, so see it here: http://www.digoliardi.net/skc1.jpg

Tin Can
26-May-2013, 12:08
Looks nice! Very heavy duty also!


A 'sky camera' I built long ago. It takes 8x10" sheet film, uses a 6" Metrogon lens.
It is too large to insert, so see it here: http://www.digoliardi.net/skc1.jpg

Mark Sawyer
26-May-2013, 12:34
I want Emil's camera...

Teodor Oprean
26-May-2013, 12:50
For me that would be any camera made by Ebony. They are beautiful to look at, but it will take me a long time before I can even consider owning one.

Jonathan Barlow
26-May-2013, 14:08
One of the 20x24 Polaroid cameras + a room full of film. For free, of course.

Tin Can
26-May-2013, 14:38
I'd go for that, with 2 technicians to handle the film. I think that's how it works anyway.


One of the 20x24 Polaroid cameras + a room full of film. For free, of course.

Jac@stafford.net
26-May-2013, 15:24
One of the 20x24 Polaroid cameras + a room full of film. For free, of course.

Your wish could become a burden. I had a patron whom I never met IRL who for quite some time supplied all the 8x10 film I wanted. With that I became shoot-happy and lost the reverence I had as the average broke tramp LF photographer. My patron evaporated. I screwed up.

Down to 25 sheets.

Daniel Stone
26-May-2013, 17:13
I've always wanted to do some landscape shooting from the air. So thusly, Linhof made the "ideal" LF camera for that purpose ;)

i'd combine this with 8-10 grafmatic holders, or preferably; kinematic holders(10 shot ones)

-Dan

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Tin Can
26-May-2013, 17:29
Those are beautiful cameras.

I gotta start using my Grafmatics, I'm worried I'll just blast away and be empty when the shot appears...


I've always wanted to do some landscape shooting from the air. So thusly, Linhof made the "ideal" LF camera for that purpose ;)

i'd combine this with 8-10 grafmatic holders, or preferably; kinematic holders(10 shot ones)

-Dan

95806

95807

Jac@stafford.net
26-May-2013, 17:29
I've always wanted to do some landscape shooting from the air. So thusly, Linhof made the "ideal" LF camera for that purpose ;)

There is a far more cost effective alternative from post WWII in the less known Printex 4x5. Lock it into infinity and be happy. Use a different lens than what it came with and be ecstatic.

The fundamental of aerial photography is a fast lens which is great wide-open and no bellows.

Biogon rule in such applications.

Otto Seaman
26-May-2013, 18:05
I see many cameras and camera accessories I want but cannot afford or pick up. I am not very patient, but sometimes we get what we desire.

I am going to start with a ebay listing that is pickup only, 2000 miles away.

While I would really prefer a linhof Gigant but this tiny (NOT) studio stand would be great to use with my Linhof Kardan Color 8X10, which no one seems to ever think is a good camera. There is one of those for sale also, and not selling for 3 listings. Sad. :(

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111079353605&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Here is the Gigant, it is clutching the following camera.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400459147313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I actually have this camera, it is great and great big, I can barely mount it in one piece. lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-Kardan-Color-8x10-Beautful/130915642222?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D7935291868591874240%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D130913024680%26

Those old Linhof stands are art... Actually any "all" Linhof kit with the proper tripod and select lenses is going to be the best IMHO.

I do laugh at those $$$$ Alpas that people use with the digital backs... Seems really hard to understand their value.

Tin Can
26-May-2013, 18:49
I do have a pretty good Linhof Color Kardan setup.

I can assemble triple 8x10 and 5x7, by sharing parts. I have two of the biggest Linhof tripods, a giant leveling cine head and a couple 2 ways. Geared extension and the big dolly for the tripods. Assembled it is impressive and stable. It does need some space to move. The dolly is really cool, with the windup wheel retraction. When I was stuck in a wheelchair for a while, I used the big Linhof on a big tripod as a brace and motivation to move from my cot to wheelchair. I had a reason to get up.

Lately several of the really nice dollies have had a hard time selling. B&H still lists the tripods in black...no changes!

I have Linhof catalogs from the era. I look for pieces.

I don't understand the really high prices for the Technikas IV, V and Master, but then I have never been able to afford them, or touch them.

I have one Linhof select Symmar 360 convertible. A really nice lens. I made Sinar to Linhof adaptor lensboards. I can use all my lenses.

I am guilty of collecting what I see as beautiful camera equipment.

Tomorrow I meet the Elwood of my dreams!





Those old Linhof stands are art... Actually any "all" Linhof kit with the proper tripod and select lenses is going to be the best IMHO.

I do laugh at those $$$$ Alpas that people use with the digital backs... Seems really hard to understand their value.

goamules
26-May-2013, 19:02
Mine would be a beveled American daguerreotype camera.

Paul Ewins
26-May-2013, 19:58
Louis Pacilla's Century Imperial 8x10 - http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?58776-This-is-a-new-one-to-me-Century-Imperial-View-Unit-1924
Possibly the only time I have been jealous of someone else's camera.

Tin Can
26-May-2013, 20:50
WOW, that is seriously nice. Linhof wood (pun intended) never do it that way.

I had no idea, makes sense for the era.

Gives me ideas...

This camera wins!



Louis Pacilla's Century Imperial 8x10 - http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?58776-This-is-a-new-one-to-me-Century-Imperial-View-Unit-1924
Possibly the only time I have been jealous of someone else's camera.

jumanji
26-May-2013, 22:02
A complete 11x14 studio camera with stand, either Deardorff or Century. Or better have both, haha.

Daniel Stone
26-May-2013, 22:35
Here's another one:
If I had the room, and didn't plan on moving for a LONG, LONG time ;)!

notice (4) standards, (3) sets of bellows!

http://deardorffcameras.0catch.com/S11_L-F-DEARDORFF_BA.jpg

FlyingGiraffes
26-May-2013, 23:03
I'd like a metal 8x10.

Canham:

http://www.canhamcameras.com/JCM810b.jpg

Phillips Explorer:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/phillips1.jpg

Wehman:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2543/3993622395_eb90e50fe5_z.jpg?zz=1

Weihan
26-May-2013, 23:21
I have two dream cameras: an Ebony made with ABS plastic (a la Walker Titan) instead of wood, and a Linhof TK45 made of titanium and ABS plastic instead of the much heavier alu-alloy. Nothing out there currently comes close.

Andrew Plume
27-May-2013, 02:45
it isn't a 'Cochran' Deardorff.........as beautiful as they look online

andrew

Andrew Plume
27-May-2013, 02:45
with or without the lady Mark

best

andrew

andreios
27-May-2013, 03:29
In 8x10 the dream would be an M-line Arca Swiss, but I would be content with anything in 12x20 (or 7x17) format...

Jody_S
27-May-2013, 05:20
I've always wanted to own a Hasselblad, for some reason I've never gotten my hands on one. I don't know why, I doubt I would ever shoot more than a dozen rolls with it. Same for the very wides, I'd like to try a 6x17 panoramic camera. In LF, I'm shopping for a new 8x10, but I don't know what I want and I don't want to buy something just for the name.

Ari
27-May-2013, 05:55
I have a TK45-s and a Kodak Master 810; I'm pretty happy. :)

Brian Ellis
27-May-2013, 08:28
Leica S2-P. I've owned some fairly expensive cameras (Ebony, Linhof MT) but nothing even remotely close to the $27,000 this baby costs.

Jac@stafford.net
27-May-2013, 08:38
I've always wanted to do some landscape shooting from the air. So thusly, Linhof made the "ideal" LF camera for that purpose ;)

i'd combine this with 8-10 grafmatic holders, or preferably; kinematic holders(10 shot ones)

The virtue of the Linhof Aerial is its lenses and rigid body. I made something functionally equivalent using a 3" Biogon lens shown here. Not very pretty, but useful.

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gleaf
27-May-2013, 08:43
I always wanted to shoot with the Nunn Baker 10x8. Might as well shoot satellites and stars with a big gun even if it weighs 2 or 3 tons. Truth is I will likely never move beyond my 2 4x5's. But I do like to dream bug.

Jac@stafford.net
27-May-2013, 08:44
Randy: I don't understand the really high prices for the Technikas IV, V and Master, but then I have never been able to afford them, or touch them.

I got a V years ago. It came with a Planar 135mm F/3.5 lens with cam. I was ignorant of the lens, and pleasantly surprised.

Kodachrome25
27-May-2013, 08:50
Dream camera? Nah, if I want or need a tool bad enough, I figure out a way to buy it, I am considering getting a second 45N2 since I am going to occasionally be tying up one for 12-16 hours on a single shot, might get the new F-1, might get another 45N2 for consistency's sake.

Now as for big dreams, I would love to spend a year shooting black and white landscapes from many of the moons around Juliter and Saturn...that would be quality....

dap
27-May-2013, 09:04
I'd like a metal 8x10.


I hate to be a dream crusher, but the vast majority of the components on the phillips camera are made of wood products ( still very dream worthy though).

FlyingGiraffes
27-May-2013, 12:26
Well, better to know than be ignorant. Thanks for the info. :)

Peter De Smidt
27-May-2013, 12:33
I'd like to try a Walker Titan 4x5. Next in line would be an Arca F 8x10.

Louis Pacilla
27-May-2013, 15:03
OK this would have to be the camera I'm most curious about .I would say I'd love to own this big beauty but I have way to many studio cameras not being used as is. That said, I have a hard time saying no so if one found it's way to my house (like many have) I would not turn her away.;)

One thing I find interesting about this big baluka is it has a dummy lens and mirror arrangement so the photographer looked as if he /she was shooting mom with the front facing dummy lens All the while the child's image is being captured by the cameras actual taking lens 90 degrees the other direction.

Here's a link to a 1909 Professional Eastman Catalog that has this short lived studio camera. After all it was $550 bucks in 1909 and only delivered a 5x7 neg or 2x 2 1/2 x3 1/2 w/ built in splitter .

http://piercevaubel.com/cam/catalogs/1909ekcproflp737.htm

Jim C.
27-May-2013, 15:23
That Gigant stand is cool looking, I think the one dream camera that I want but couldn't have is
a Century Studio, just don't have the space for it.
But if I ever stumble across a beater Century Imperial I'll make room ;)

Ian Greenhalgh
27-May-2013, 16:58
Wisner 4x10 for landscape work.

http://harrysproshop.com/wis410/Wisner_410_Back.jpg

http://harrysproshop.com/Wisner_410_Front.jpg

jeroldharter
27-May-2013, 19:08
Some on my list would be:

Carbon Infinity 4x5
Layton 4x5

Kirk Gittings
27-May-2013, 20:45
I actually have my dream LF camera, a Phillips. It will likely last the remainder of my working life. I would love to have also an Arca Technical camera:
https://captureintegration.com/arca-swiss/

John Kasaian
27-May-2013, 20:45
A 5X7 Nagaoka would be at the top of the list, and a 5x7 Linhof Technica as well. And a baby Deardorff V4. And a V11 Deardorff (this would have to come with at least a half dozen film holders
and a 19" Dagor f7.7.) And a top rangefinder Crown Graphic with couple of grafmatics, and a Graphic Crown view, and a Kodak Vest Pocket, and a Kodak Panoram (in tip top shape of course) and a Pentacon 6 with the Arasat fisheye lens should cover it.
Of course I don't have enough time to play with the cameras I already own so my poverty is really an illusion.
If I won the lottery tomorrow, buying another camera would be at the very bottom of my list.

GG12
27-May-2013, 21:18
Leica S2-P. I've owned some fairly expensive cameras (Ebony, Linhof MT) but nothing even remotely close to the $27,000 this baby costs.

Those guys have come way down... FWIW, the bodies are about $10k.

Brian Ellis
28-May-2013, 07:11
Those guys have come way down... FWIW, the bodies are about $10k.

Wow, that's good news. I'll write a check today. But I won't mail it, just write it.

DrTang
28-May-2013, 07:17
hey..I had one of those stands...two of them actually

picked them up at a camera swap meet - dang near broke my back getting them into the car

they didn't have a head..but I managed to mount a Quick Set head on one and used it a bit

meh: didn't fit my shooting style at the time - so I dumped them pretty cheap.. buck and a quarter each I think

DrTang
28-May-2013, 07:17
One of the 20x24 Polaroid cameras + a room full of film. For free, of course.




^^this

bracan
28-May-2013, 13:00
One of the 20x24 Polaroid cameras + a room full of film. For free, of course.

Everything I need.

Tin Can
28-May-2013, 13:17
Yes, very handy indeed. Great idea!

I keep wanting to get the 90 degree SLR mirror rig.

I also have too many Studio cameras, and right now I am dragging in 3 Elwood enlargers.

I cannot say no to a woman or camera...



OK this would have to be the camera I'm most curious about .I would say I'd love to own this big beauty but I have way to many studio cameras not being used as is. That said, I have a hard time saying no so if one found it's way to my house (like many have) I would not turn her away.;)

One thing I find interesting about this big baluka is it has a dummy lens and mirror arrangement so the photographer looked as if he /she was shooting mom with the front facing dummy lens All the while the child's image is being captured by the cameras actual taking lens 90 degrees the other direction.

Here's a link to a 1909 Professional Eastman Catalog that has this short lived studio camera. After all it was $550 bucks in 1909 and only delivered a 5x7 neg or 2x 2 1/2 x3 1/2 w/ built in splitter .

http://piercevaubel.com/cam/catalogs/1909ekcproflp737.htm

raizans
29-May-2013, 00:30
a phillips compact ii in whole plate format made out of titanium and ABS plastic. one day, i'll learn how to make it myself!

Sal Santamaura
29-May-2013, 08:21
a phillips compact ii in whole plate format made out of titanium and ABS plastic...No need for titanium and ABS (both add weight). Just shrink my 8x10 Compact II to 6-1/2 x 8-1/2 using the same materials Dick used.

Oh, and shrink my 8x10 Fidelity holders too. :)

Tin Can
29-May-2013, 08:27
Mmm,

Pictures are so nice. Great camera, with film costs 1/2 of 8X10!




Wisner 4x10 for landscape work.

http://harrysproshop.com/wis410/Wisner_410_Back.jpg

http://harrysproshop.com/Wisner_410_Front.jpg

Sal Santamaura
29-May-2013, 09:02
...film costs 1/2 of 8X10!Not really:


https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=620


https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3777

E. von Hoegh
29-May-2013, 09:23
Not really:


https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=620


https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3777

I make 4x10s on my V8, using a divider board. Two images on one sheet. I also make 5x8s.

Sal Santamaura
29-May-2013, 10:10
I make 4x10s on my V8, using a divider board. Two images on one sheet. I also make 5x8s.That won't work with the 4x10 Wisner that Randy's post pictured. :D

raizans
29-May-2013, 10:50
No need for titanium and ABS (both add weight). Just shrink my 8x10 Compact II to 6-1/2 x 8-1/2 using the same materials Dick used.

Oh, and shrink my 8x10 Fidelity holders too. :)

would plastic be heavier? i figured the boards could be hollowed out, leaving some ribs for structural support.

invisibleflash
29-May-2013, 10:55
I am happy with the view cam options out there, but...

If Fuji made a FF 24 mp 'Fleica' (Leica knockoff) that used Leica glass, is a true rangefinder and sells for $3500.

Plus a mono Fleica for $4000. (And leave all your crazy bottons off the Fleica Fuji!) I'd be all over it!

Kevin J. Kolosky
29-May-2013, 11:23
96012

I'd give up large format photography, and every other camera I own, for a Linhof 679CC and a bunch of lenses and a couple of film backs and a good digitial back!

Sal Santamaura
29-May-2013, 11:29
would plastic be heavier? i figured the boards could be hollowed out, leaving some ribs for structural support.Dick used different materials for various pieces of his cameras. The base of my Compact II is a sandwich of wood and composite. While unable to cite a specific density (Dick always said the wood varied from sample to sample), I'm confident that ABS is much heavier. Walker's cameras, for example, offer incredible resistance to the elements, but they've never been accused of being light. :)

Tin Can
29-May-2013, 11:46
https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3596

https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=3591

I can cut the first into 4 packs of the second.



I make 4x10s on my V8, using a divider board. Two images on one sheet. I also make 5x8s.

austin granger
29-May-2013, 12:15
I'd like a dedicated 4x10 as well. That Wisner is very nice, but a little flashy for me. This Ebony SW410E would do nicely:

96013

Hiromi-San, If you happen to be reading this, and are interested in lending me this camera for publicity purposes, I'd be honored to oblige. :)

Sal Santamaura
29-May-2013, 12:18
...I can cut the first into 4 packs of the second.What price do you put on your time to do that, plus your time to spot out the dust/marks from handling? :D

Tin Can
29-May-2013, 12:27
Yes, there is that.

I find it a pricing anomaly.

7x11 is 1/2 the price of 11x14.

Pricing mostly follows area.

They used to bill my time at $90 an hour, but now I am retired and have time to spend my way.

I can cut that film in an hour, saving $120.




What price do you put on your time to do that, plus your time to spot out the dust/marks from handling? :D

E. von Hoegh
29-May-2013, 12:39
That won't work with the 4x10 Wisner that Randy's post pictured. :D

I know... but then I'd never own anything Wisner, regardless of format. ;)

Jac@stafford.net
29-May-2013, 15:24
I do not need any more cameras.
I need energy, strength.

Drew Wiley
29-May-2013, 16:26
No, no, no, no, no.... No ABS Phillips cameras! Dick got it right the first time. He made custom laminate of a of marine-epoxy-impregnated cherrywood and fiberglass.
It's lightwt, doesn't warp, and holds up to the elements. The epoxy yellows and could eventually fail if you just left it in the sun forever. But you don't. ABS is heavy
and is capable of shattering upon impact in very cold weather. Ever own one of those "unbreakable" ABS camera cases and drop it on a really cold day? Now Chamonix has altered Dick's formula by substituting carbon fiber for the fiberglass. I made some hardware modifications on my early Phillips and now already own my dream camera.

AnselAdamsX
29-May-2013, 17:31
I'd love to have an Ebony 57SUE

austin granger
29-May-2013, 18:17
You know, if we could all agree on one camera, we could each chip in some money and then do a time-share type thing, where you'd get it for a month and then pass it along to the next guy. Unfortunately, looking at the variety of "Dream Cameras" here, I'm not sure such an agreement is possible. :-)

dsphotog
29-May-2013, 20:38
10"Circut
with
lifetime
supply
of
film!

raizans
30-May-2013, 15:55
ok, no plastic phillips. any new developments in composite wood?

Drew Wiley
30-May-2013, 16:30
Well, a 5x7 Ebony is almost mythical as far as I'm concerned. All the Ebony I could afford was the 4x5, which constitutes the second dream camera I already own.
The third dream camera I also own is a beautiful 4x5 Sinar Norma with original mint tapered bellows. I'll probably take it for a walk this weekend and give my Phillips the day off. Want to work with that Lonnnnng monorail. As far as new composites, take a look at what Chamonix and possibly Wilderness are doing.

David Lobato
30-May-2013, 18:11
In 2007 at the Houston Camera Show I had the chance to buy a 5x7 Ebony (in Ebony wood) for $1500 from a West Coast dealer. It was the most beautiful gorgeous camera I ever saw. I came close to buying it but decided 5x7 wasn't for me. I'm still kicking myself.

Tin Can
30-May-2013, 18:21
A friend was emptying a house prior to sale, and is bringing me a Polaroid Big Shot. I never heard of it or saw one, but it sure sounds great to me. I always like my latest camera best...http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polaroid_Big_Shot

Curt
30-May-2013, 18:45
Ebony 11x14. Since I don't have $15,000 and can't wait 18 months for one I decided to make one. I'll show it when it's done. I'm way beyond the stainless steel threading I posted about. It's really simple, just take half a grand and buy quarter sawn, straight grain, well seasoned (10 years) Rosewood and Ebony with legal paperwork. Then buy a few hundred dollars of metal, also with engineering sheet and country of origin. Add stainless steel knobs made in Germany and American made gears and racks. Collect a ground glass, bought it a few years ago, and stainless steel clips to hold the glass. Add two stainless steel back springs made for 11x14. Add fasteners, adhesive, and finishing materials. Balance the design, tooling, and expertise to the overall concept and keep the precision high. Tooling is expensive enough but compared to a shop full of tools it's incidental. Oh, add a bellows!

I wonder why the Ebony is so expensive?

Tin Can
30-May-2013, 19:00
And how much is your time worth?

Sounds like you have at least 3K in parts now...

Then holders.

But there is great joy in making a thing!

I once made a boat, I never sailed.


Ebony 11x14. Since I don't have $15,000 and can't wait 18 months for one I decided to make one. I'll show it when it's done. I'm way beyond the stainless steel threading I posted about. It's really simple, just take half a grand and buy quarter sawn, straight grain, well seasoned (10 years) Rosewood and Ebony with legal paperwork. Then buy a few hundred dollars of metal, also with engineering sheet and country of origin. Add stainless steel knobs made in Germany and American made gears and racks. Collect a ground glass, bought it a few years ago, and stainless steel clips to hold the glass. Add two stainless steel back springs made for 11x14. Add fasteners, adhesive, and finishing materials. Balance the design, tooling, and expertise to the overall concept and keep the precision high. Tooling is expensive enough but compared to a shop full of tools it's incidental. Oh, add a bellows!

I wonder why the Ebony is so expensive?

Curt
30-May-2013, 22:19
Hey Randy,

I work in the evening instead of watching the television. Sometimes as little as 45 minutes. It keeps the progress happening and I'm fresh and don't start making mistakes or accidents. Cut an Ebony piece wrong and it's a disaster. It keeps me on my toes! While I watch "How it's Made" I make notes and check the overall progress. I also measure and mark material. Sometimes over night I have a flash realizing something won't work. My hourly rate is $50.00 an hour for routine work higher if a setup is required. I don't actually take a payment though. I made a deal with the boss, me, where in exchange for pay I'd have complete design control and the funding necessary to complete the job. Provided the president of the facilities, wife, doesn't apply a stop work due to run away costs and failure to complete other tasks.

I designed a traditional holder which looks like a traditional holder, to see if I could. I'll make them after the camera is done. The T-Depth of the holder will be close to ANSI and it will match the ground glass displacement. The outside dimensions are the standard size and it is and they will be double sided. I need a half dozen and maybe more later. It's very exact work so a calm mindset is required. With this run I've allowed for any mistakes and have extra materials. In some ways the holders are a lot more tricky to make than the camera. I made a Cherry & brass 4x5 view camera three decades ago and it's still usable so I understand the complexities involved. Boat building and musical instruments require a similar type of woodworking expertise.

Speaking of boats, sometimes when your boat doesn't come in you have to swim out to it.

Tin Can
31-May-2013, 08:07
I have always had projects, whatever they may have been. I have found doing something, even 15 minutes every day on that project will get it done.

Sounds like you know exactly what I mean.

I think I am working, at my projects, harder in retirement than during my working for the man days! No time clock now, except the final one.

I have sailboat camped, anchored offshore and swam back and forth. Those days are gone...

I anxiously await your camera build images and shooting images.



Hey Randy,

I work in the evening instead of watching the television. Sometimes as little as 45 minutes. It keeps the progress happening and I'm fresh and don't start making mistakes or accidents. Cut an Ebony piece wrong and it's a disaster. It keeps me on my toes! While I watch "How it's Made" I make notes and check the overall progress. I also measure and mark material. Sometimes over night I have a flash realizing something won't work. My hourly rate is $50.00 an hour for routine work higher if a setup is required. I don't actually take a payment though. I made a deal with the boss, me, where in exchange for pay I'd have complete design control and the funding necessary to complete the job. Provided the president of the facilities, wife, doesn't apply a stop work due to run away costs and failure to complete other tasks.

I designed a traditional holder which looks like a traditional holder, to see if I could. I'll make them after the camera is done. The T-Depth of the holder will be close to ANSI and it will match the ground glass displacement. The outside dimensions are the standard size and it is and they will be double sided. I need a half dozen and maybe more later. It's very exact work so a calm mindset is required. With this run I've allowed for any mistakes and have extra materials. In some ways the holders are a lot more tricky to make than the camera. I made a Cherry & brass 4x5 view camera three decades ago and it's still usable so I understand the complexities involved. Boat building and musical instruments require a similar type of woodworking expertise.

Speaking of boats, sometimes when your boat doesn't come in you have to swim out to it.

Curt
31-May-2013, 17:29
I have always had projects, whatever they may have been. I have found doing something, even 15 minutes every day on that project will get it done.

Sounds like you know exactly what I mean.

I think I am working, at my projects, harder in retirement than during my working for the man days! No time clock now, except the final one.

I have sailboat camped, anchored offshore and swam back and forth. Those days are gone...

I anxiously await your camera build images and shooting images.


Thank you Randy, yes I know what you mean. Retirement is the start of another clock. Time is everything.

Corran
31-May-2013, 18:44
Well since we are dreaming, I'd like a pair of Nikon SP rangefinders with D800E guts (compacted in some way to fit, of course) with basically the lenses I have now augmented with some more CV glass and the 50mm f/1.1, 85mm f/1.5, and 50mm f/1.4 "Olympic" Nikkors. And I'd like the colors to not look digital but emulate Portra 160NC ;).

Or, any good 8x10 field cam and an infinite supply of film.

Drew Bedo
4-Jun-2013, 04:37
How about a 4x5 Graflex Reflex with a reflex hood mounted on top?

With all this 3-D printing going on, this should be possible . . .?

Shootar401
9-Jun-2013, 12:15
Leica S2-P. I've owned some fairly expensive cameras (Ebony, Linhof MT) but nothing even remotely close to the $27,000 this baby costs.

Overpriced Leica crap IMO.

I can't if there is anything I actually "want" I have everything I need and can't think of anything.

Jac@stafford.net
9-Jun-2013, 13:15
Overpriced Leica crap IMO.

If it helps, S2-* are selling slightly used at less than half retail. Still, I owe less on my mortgage.

David A. Goldfarb
9-Jun-2013, 16:16
As for cameras, I have what I need and more. Time, not as much these days.

Joe Smigiel
9-Jun-2013, 20:03
http://www.breker.com/images/dubroni.jpg

Dubroni outfit

Emil Schildt
12-Jun-2013, 05:44
http://www.breker.com/images/dubroni.jpg

Dubroni outfit

:rolleyes:

...and there's one for sale right here...

http://www.antiq-photo.com/spip.php?article1954

Joe Smigiel
13-Jun-2013, 10:06
:rolleyes:

...and there's one for sale right here...

http://www.antiq-photo.com/spip.php?article1954

And my birthday is in a few weeks. (Hint, hint.)

Tin Can
13-Jun-2013, 10:20
Thank goodness for Google translate.

I almost clicked the 'watch' button, but it was a 'order this product' button!

I don't need or want one...

fecaleagle
14-Jun-2013, 07:59
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?104170-FS-Deardorff-5x7-w-5x7-and-4x5-backs-original-case

:)

Tin Can
14-Jun-2013, 08:01
Smart trick...


http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?104170-FS-Deardorff-5x7-w-5x7-and-4x5-backs-original-case

:)

fecaleagle
14-Jun-2013, 08:11
I'm nowhere near able to afford one, and I'm only consoling myself with the fact that the lens board is too small for the petzval I shoot most of my 5x7 work with. I'll spare you the link to its 8x10 big brother... Not even in my wildest dreams.


Smart trick...

Tin Can
14-Jun-2013, 08:13
I would like to see your 5x7 and petzval setup.




I'm nowhere near able to afford one, and I'm only consoling myself with the fact that the lens board is too small for the petzval I shoot most of my 5x7 work with.

fecaleagle
14-Jun-2013, 08:21
I would like to see your 5x7 and petzval setup.

I'll PM you a couple pictures after work to try to keep it off of this thread. The Ansco has a ~5 1/4" board, and I still had to clip the flange to mount the lens. It's a 10" f/3.2 no-name petzval with maybe a 3.5" diameter rear element.

Tin Can
14-Jun-2013, 08:28
Thanks.



I'll PM you a couple pictures after work to try to keep it off of this thread. The Ansco has a ~5 1/4" board, and I still had to clip the flange to mount the lens. It's a 10" f/3.2 no-name petzval with maybe a 3.5" diameter rear element.

cjbroadbent
14-Jun-2013, 23:03
Here's a Gandolfi 11x14 (http://buy.vivastreet.co.uk/cameras+ladbroke-grove/gandolfi-field-camera-w-lens/72072538) up for sale. I can't afford space for the trays and all that comes after it.

Zaitz
15-Jun-2013, 03:50
A 16x20 Chamonix and custom mount for a nice external frame backpack.

Gordon Flodders
18-Jun-2013, 16:29
What I really want is a 4x5 rangefinder with a 135mm f3.5 Planar.::cool:

David R Munson
18-Jun-2013, 17:42
OK, bear with me on this one. It's not a camera, but it would be for photography:

http://www.larryvsharry.com/bike/clockworkbox.jpg

For daily utilitarian purposes (being car-free and whatnot) I want a cargo bike. I want this cargo bike in particular because I'd like to outfit the front end with custom cases to hold an 8x10 setup, tripod, etc for portraiture around Osaka once I get established there. And many other such applications, of course. This would probably include a couple battery-powered strobes, making the capacity of this particular bike a plus.

Dream bike for dream photo setup, but long-term I can do it. Enough with this not having it concept. :)

Tin Can
18-Jun-2013, 17:55
I'm with you on this. We are all too old to wait for anything. Lately I am seeing a lot of cargo bikes in Chicago, this one is very nice and easily modded.

I saw one on Damen with a big plastic wheelbarrow in the same position, a factory bike from somewhere.

I used to use a NOS adult Schwinn trike I got out of the old Schwinn factory collection, just as it closed.

Now I am making a very small trailer to tow behind my enduro.




OK, bear with me on this one. It's not a camera, but it would be for photography:

http://www.larryvsharry.com/bike/clockworkbox.jpg

For daily utilitarian purposes (being car-free and whatnot) I want a cargo bike. I want this cargo bike in particular because I'd like to outfit the front end with custom cases to hold an 8x10 setup, tripod, etc for portraiture around Osaka once I get established there. And many other such applications, of course. This would probably include a couple battery-powered strobes, making the capacity of this particular bike a plus.

Dream bike for dream photo setup, but long-term I can do it. Enough with this not having it concept. :)

David R Munson
18-Jun-2013, 18:00
Last August the Cycle Messenger World Championships were held here in Chicago. One of the fastest qualifying times was set on one of these cargo bikes (unloaded of course) and was ridden by the guy who designed them! Super-functional and potentially QUICK to boot.

Today I hauled 60lbs of cat litter and dry food home in my messenger bag (http://www.chromeindustries.com/warsaw). I can do that when I need to, but I don't like to do it, and I certainly wouldn't see any photos with that much crap on my back. Cargo bike is the way to go!

Cor
19-Jun-2013, 02:57
This is what I use:

97272

Previously to transport the children when they were small, now for daily shopping and 8*10 gear.

best,

Cor

David R Munson
19-Jun-2013, 07:14
Awesome! That's a classy rig! Do you have any photos of yours loaded with your gear?

Emil Schildt
19-Jun-2013, 14:31
Here's a Gandolfi 11x14 (http://buy.vivastreet.co.uk/cameras+ladbroke-grove/gandolfi-field-camera-w-lens/72072538) up for sale. I can't afford space for the trays and all that comes after it.

Oh NO!! I wished I didn't see that.... :o

Cor
20-Jun-2013, 01:30
Awesome! That's a classy rig! Do you have any photos of yours loaded with your gear?

No, but I do have one with my twins in it..;-)..

Best,

Cor

Cor
29-Jun-2013, 07:12
No, but I do have one with my twins in it..;-)..

Best,

Cor

Ok, I couldn't resit, totally OT: but here is a picture with my twins when they turned 7 (4 years ago) we are on our way to..guess what : a bowling alley...:) at least we went by bike as dutch are supposed to do..any way they do not fit anymore, so I use the bike for shoppings or my 8*10 gear (a Toyo Field, so heavy..)

Best,

Cor

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David R Munson
29-Jun-2013, 09:06
Awesome!!!