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John Conway
11-May-2013, 09:43
Does anyone know if Calumet made the CC402 wide monorail camera in black?

George E. Sheils
11-May-2013, 09:47
Does anyone know if Calumet made the CC402 wide monorail camera in black?

John, I think I remember Kirk selling his about a year or two back...and that was black if I recall correctly?


EDIT: Yup...there she blows...

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?88931-One-of-a-Kind-Calumet-Widefield-SOLD&highlight=calumet+402



My one is chrome and grey.

Regards,
George

John Conway
11-May-2013, 09:56
George , I have the grey model as well. I have seen them in black,but people have them painted or powder coated. I think the black models were the late cameras, so I guess they may have made the 402 in black as well, but I've yet to find any original ad or catalog picture of a black 402.

George E. Sheils
11-May-2013, 10:08
Thats correct, John.

I haven't seen any ad or catelog showing black versions either. I'd say they were late cameras. I guess Lynn Jones is probably the best person to chime in on this seeing as he was the original mastermind behind this design?

lenser
11-May-2013, 11:02
There is a black one on ebay right now.

Merg Ross
11-May-2013, 11:22
This is a partial answer from Lynn Jones in response to a 2008 thread on the subject.

http://photo.net/large-format-photography-forum/00Qs2m?start=10

The CC402 was my bread and butter architectural photography camera for many years. Great camera!

Jim Noel
11-May-2013, 11:41
I believe the black one was renamed Orbit.

Gem Singer
11-May-2013, 11:59
The 400 I bought from Calumet in the early 1980's was black.

AJ Edmondson
11-May-2013, 12:03
I have one of the black 402's... they are indeed great cameras when working wide with a flat board.
Joel

lenser
11-May-2013, 12:26
Jim,

I could very well be off on this, but I think the history went from Kodak, to Orbit and then to Calumet. Essentially the same camera except for some wild red knobs (and bellows?) in one iteration, but my oh my is it a great one for architecture.

John Conway
11-May-2013, 16:59
Jim,

I could very well be off on this, but I think the history went from Kodak, to Orbit and then to Calumet. Essentially the same camera except for some wild red knobs (and bellows?) in one iteration, but my oh my is it a great one for architecture.
I have an original Orbit by Burke and James with the red knobs and bellows.I certainly didn't need it when I bought it since I already had several monorails, but the unique look to the camera, with it's art deco red knob's and bellows,funky B&J flat gray paint, fine period chrome, and the fact that it was in gorgeous condition in it's case, I had to have it.

Kirk Gittings
11-May-2013, 17:16
Yes I bought a couple of them for parts-switching them out with my older widefield parts to make it look cooler....

BTMarcais
15-May-2013, 20:53
I used to own one of these in black, so I know they exist. I had two calumet's at the same time, and the normal version was in grey, while the wide was in black. Kinda miss the wide one actually...

-Brian

lenser
15-May-2013, 22:03
Somebody won the one offered on ebay for only $72.00. Wish it had been me. Don't know why the heck I wold the gray one I had.......dumb!

Sal Santamaura
16-May-2013, 07:29
...I guess Lynn Jones is probably the best person to chime in on this...He won't be doing that:


http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=H.-Jones&lc=4993&pid=160743390&mid=5287341&locale=en-US

Merg Ross
16-May-2013, 08:17
He won't be doing that:


http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=H.-Jones&lc=4993&pid=160743390&mid=5287341&locale=en-US

Sorry to hear. Lynn had a tremendous knowledge of photography, and was always generous in sharing.

Mark Sampson
16-May-2013, 09:54
Here's how I understand it: The camera was was designed and introduced by Kodak post-WWII. Calumet bought the design rights c.1956 and, per the late Mr. Jones, made some improvements, then sold it under their own name. Calumet and Burke&James were somehow affiliated, thus the similar (or functionally identical?) B&J Orbit. B&J went under in the mid-70s and Calumet continued to sell the CC-series cameras until about 1990; by the mid-'80s they were painted black. Probably the most popular view camera ever made, they were advertised in Pop Photo through the '70s for $149.00. After Calumet bought Cambo, it was replaced by the Cambo-made NX.

George E. Sheils
20-May-2013, 08:18
He won't be doing that:


http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=H.-Jones&lc=4993&pid=160743390&mid=5287341&locale=en-US

Oh no !

I had no idea that Lynn had passed away.

Between Lynn, Per Volquartz and Ernest Purdum the forum has lost an awful lot of LF knowledge and experience in recent years.

May they RIP.