View Full Version : Is a 300mm lense a use focal length for 4x5???
stradibarrius
25-Mar-2013, 15:40
How often do you use your longer focal length lenses in LF? Say 300mm and longer?
Nathan Potter
25-Mar-2013, 15:57
I see I used the 360 and 500 Nikon T ED just 30% of the time for quan. 400 4X5s' in 4 years. Lots more than I thought. But that includes 3 months in the Canadian Rockies.
Nate Potter, Austin TX.
Drew Wiley
25-Mar-2013, 16:01
I'm assuming you are referring to such usage with 4x5 film, in which case I use 300 frequently, 360 a lot, and 450 rather
frequently too. The nice thing about these longer lenses is that they generally have enough coverage for 8x10 film too.
I select from Nikkor M, Fuji C, and Fuji A. None are telephoto design.
In twenty plus years twice - a 300mm f9 Nikon M, it was rare I used longer than 150mm although I'm beginning to use a 203mm or 210mm more in the past 2-3 years. It depends what & where you shoot, I don't shoot in wide open landscapes very often. My Nikon 300mm also fits my 10x8 cameras.
Ian
I used my Fuji 300mm for the first time on my 4x5 last week. Originally bought it for my 8x10 but I can see myself using it a bit more. Big old thing though.
Mark Stahlke
25-Mar-2013, 16:36
My Fuji 300mm is one of my "don't leave home without it" lenses. I use it a lot.
biedron
25-Mar-2013, 16:50
I use my 360mm and 500mm Nikkor T-ED lenses a lot - more than I ever expected to. I shoot landscapes so a lot of time moving in closer is not possible/practical. Just got a 720mm rear cell so I am looking forward to trying that out too.
Bob
Never, but then I never own anything over 210mm for 4x5, and used 150mm 99% of the time.
A lot of work in the deep forest, so longer lenses are not used as much (by me, anyway).
As with any lens selection, it will depend on your subject matter, shooting style, and personal preference.
I have Nikkor M in 300/9 and 450/9 and a Nikkor W 360/6.5. I use all of them regularly.
One common scenario for me is to take overall shots (architecture for example) using a wide lens, then
close in for details using the longer focal lengths.
- Leigh
stradibarrius
25-Mar-2013, 17:33
How would a 300mm 0r 360mm work for portrait and /or product photography? That would be like a 100 or 120mm in 35mm correct??
How would a 300mm 0r 360mm work for portrait and /or product photography?
A bit long, giving a flattened perspective.
The effect might be flattering, depending on the subject, lighting, etc.
In 35mm work an 85mm is often the lens of choice for portraiture; not that much different.
- Leigh
BrianShaw
25-Mar-2013, 17:40
How often do you use your longer focal length lenses in LF? Say 300mm and longer?
Can't really say "how often" but I can easily say 'when'. I use 300 for portraiture frequently and much less for landscape or general photography, and never for architecture.
Mark Sampson
25-Mar-2013, 20:04
If I could only keep two lenses for 4x5, one would be my 300/9 Nikkor-M. (The other would be my 135/6.3 Wide-Field Ektar.) The only lens I desire, but don't own, is the 500/11 Nikkor-T.
Preston
25-Mar-2013, 20:30
My 300 Nikkor-M gets used quite frequently. I would also like to own a Fuji 450.
--P
Peter Gomena
25-Mar-2013, 21:56
I have a 305mm Schneider G-Claron. It gets occasional use on my 4x5 and does double-duty on my whole-plate camera. My 150 and 210 get more use on 4x5. I also own a 360mm Tele-Xenar, which doesn't get a lot of use, but it's there when I need it.
rdenney
26-Mar-2013, 05:38
I use mine often enough to think of it as a basic part of my kit.
Rick "who might look for a 300mm plasmat this year, just for the modern shutter as much as anything" Denney
How would a 300mm 0r 360mm work for portrait and /or product photography? That would be like a 100 or 120mm in 35mm correct??
I really like 4x5's made with my Kodak 305 Portrait lens, but not everyone is into that style. The lens was made for 5x7 and usable with 8x10.
Shekhjs4
26-Mar-2013, 06:00
Yes
stradibarrius
26-Mar-2013, 06:12
Here is a link to a Nikon brochure on the 300m f/9 and the 450m f/9 I'm sure it will clear up any questions about the design and coatings etc. Also is a "Tessar" design 4 elements in 3 groups?
http://www.galerie-photo.com/manuels/nikkor-lenses-for-large-format%20cameras.pdf
sethlatimer
26-Mar-2013, 08:38
I love my 300 f9 lens for landscape. I like the angle of view so much that I am thinking about getting another 300 that is faster for portraits and still life.
Mark Sampson
26-Mar-2013, 09:03
stradibarrius, the Nikkor-M lenses are indeed designed to the Tessar formula.
Tobias Key
26-Mar-2013, 12:22
The 300mm is a dangerous lens. If you buy one you'll start thinking about shooting 8x10... so it could end up costing you a lot of money ;)
E. von Hoegh
26-Mar-2013, 12:25
The 300mm is a dangerous lens. If you buy one you'll start thinking about shooting 8x10... so it could end up costing you a lot of money ;)
A 12" Goerz Red Dot Artar doesn't cover 8x10, so it's safe.
There was a really nice 30cm C.P. Goerz Berlin Dagor, in a Compound, on feepay recently...
Mark Stahlke
26-Mar-2013, 12:35
The 300mm is a dangerous lens. If you buy one you'll start thinking about shooting 8x10... so it could end up costing you a lot of money ;):D That's what happened to me. I realized I had lenses that would cover 8x10 but no 8x10 camera to mount them on. Of course I had to rectify that situation.
Has anyone actually bought a Fuji W 300/5.6 for a 4x5?
I use a Gowland 4x5 Pocket View -- weighs about 2 pounds. Not only is the front standard too small to take a Copal 3 mounted lens, the lens would out-weigh the camera!LOL!
I do love it on my 8x10, though!
stradibarrius
26-Mar-2013, 15:44
I am suprised that so many people have responded! It is almost unanimous that the 300, 350 even 450 are very useful lenses. This afternoon I bought a Nikon 300m f/6 form someone on this forum. I felt that it would be really useful.
AJ Edmondson
26-Mar-2013, 18:06
I still have one but use it infrequently... during the years when I was in Arizona, Texas and California I used it much more frequently but here in the southeast I seem to be more concerned with opening up the space than compressing the distance. Again it is one of those things where you have to decide for yourself - based on your own photographic vision - if it works for you.
Joel
munz6869
26-Mar-2013, 18:26
Yes - on my 5x4" Wista the bellows are out as far as it's possible to get them, and I wouldn't want to focus on anything too close... but I have got some smashing shots with that focal length!
Marc!
EdoNork
27-Mar-2013, 00:19
I have been looking the Nikkor lenses catalog and there are two type of long lenses, Type T and Type W (this is a broad rage of lenses). They mark T as real telephoto lenses. What is the real difference between two types? They are fisically very differents, one short, others long, for similar focal lengths.
Len Middleton
27-Mar-2013, 00:38
I have been looking the Nikkor lenses catalog and there are two type of long lenses, Type T and Type W (this is a broad rage of lenses). They mark T as real telephoto lenses. What is the real difference between two types?
Take a closer look at the specifications for the two lenses.
The W is a general purpose lens (plasmat design) with a large image circle (300 covers 10x12) and requiring a lot of bellows (approx 300mm at infinity).
The T is a telephoto lens (telephoto design) with a smaller image circle (the 360 covers 5x7), but requires much less bellows.
For 4x5, the 360 T would cover and could likely accommodate the bellows draw of a small 4x5 camera.
EdoNork
28-Mar-2013, 01:55
Thank you very much, Len.
Any word about image quality?
Nathan Potter
28-Mar-2013, 08:34
Edo, I've used both of these lenses but now stick with the 360 T ED, mostly because I can convert it to a 500 mm by changing the rear section. I have a sense in general that the 300 might have a slight edge in sharpness but the 360 T uses some ED glass which appears to yield better contrast for longer landscape images. For portraiture I'd choose the 300 W.
Nate Potter, Austin TX.
EdoNork
28-Mar-2013, 09:46
I will be using it for landscapes. 360 T is the choice, the image circle is enough.
Thank you.
Brian Vuillemenot
28-Mar-2013, 20:03
450 mm is at least my second most often, and perhaps most often used, lens on 4X5. I use the 300 mm quite a bit, too.
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