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Bush
11-Mar-2013, 05:10
Here I have a linhof camera
Serial number is 13575
I measured the ground glass and it is exactly 17cmx12cm.
clearly it is not fit able to modern 5x7 film holders.

Could you please tell me what is this type of linhof camera and what holders I can use with it. Thank you!!

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Steven Tribe
11-Mar-2013, 05:42
No expert - but it is a pre-war 13x18cm model. These use one-sided holders (although doubled sided and film packs may have been made) , which may be difficult to find.

This is from a period when Linhof were just a very good maker, rather than an elite maker.

cmace127
11-Mar-2013, 11:34
Any idea of the year of a Master Technika with the following serial number: 6451597

Thanks in advance!

Eric Rose
11-Mar-2013, 12:59
Any idea of the year of a Master Technika with the following serial number: 6451597

Thanks in advance!

There is a specific thread associated with Linhof serial numbers. Just search for it and post in there.

Eric

anglophone1
11-Mar-2013, 13:13
Bob will be along in minute and give you the scoop.....

Tin Can
11-Mar-2013, 14:45
I have the same camera, serial # 13760 with a double sided standard spring GG back. Bob does not have information on Pre War cameras. Very nice camera that weighs far less than Post War ones. Mine is 7 pounds with a lens. There is one for sale on eBay right now.

Information is kind of slim on these cameras. I gather they are called Technika Standard. Since 5X7 and 13X18 have the same external film holder dimension the camera can use either.

Steven Tribe
11-Mar-2013, 16:08
Here is a 9x12 1946 Linhof III, currently on auction in Sweden.
It shows the type of film holders you should be looking for.

Bush
11-Mar-2013, 18:34
Randy Moe: are you using the camera to take photos? Whats kind of holder is it and how to find it?
If finding holders is difficult, i'm thinking of attach a normal 5x7 back to the camera to use with normal 5x7 ones

Steven Tribe: these holders look to be one sided.
I've asked the ebay seller of this camera type. He said these following ones could be fit. Should I buy them?

"There seem to be two of them in eBay Germany . One is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-13x18-Doppelseitiges-Planfilmmagazin-Planfilm-Film-Holder-LESEN-/380578505519?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Ersatzteile_Werkzeuge&hash=item589c3f232f

And the other one here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-13x18-Doppelseitiges-Planfilmmagazin-Planfilm-Magazin-Film-Holder-/380547625314?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Ersatzteile_Werkzeuge&hash=item589a67f162 "

Tin Can
11-Mar-2013, 19:36
Mine can use standard American style 5 X 7 double sided holders. Works fine. Lens boards are anther difficulty. I have a custom machined adapter so I can use modern boards.

Learn a little German before shopping German eBay. Both sales you list are fairly easily to read as "Linhof 13x18 Doppelseitiges Planfilmmagazin Planfilm Magazin Film Holder" which means Linhof 13x18 (NOT 5X7) Double sided sheet film holder. They will not work.

If you can modify your camera in a non destructive way, why not? Or find the the single sided film holders that will work. Your camera is Pre War II, at least 70 years old. Parts are non existent.

Or put it in the glass case and admire the workmanship. Buy a much cheaper wood 5 X 7. I have 5 X & B&J's that I can barely give away. But I am not giving them away.

Buying from Germany takes plenty of patience. I just waited 3 weeks for a lens board.



Randy Moe: are you using the camera to take photos? Whats kind of holder is it and how to find it?
If finding holders is difficult, i'm thinking of attach a normal 5x7 back to the camera to use with normal 5x7 ones

Steven Tribe: these holders look to be one sided.
I've asked the ebay seller of this camera type. He said these following ones could be fit. Should I buy them?

"There seem to be two of them in eBay Germany . One is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-13x18-Doppelseitiges-Planfilmmagazin-Planfilm-Film-Holder-LESEN-/380578505519?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Ersatzteile_Werkzeuge&hash=item589c3f232f

And the other one here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-13x18-Doppelseitiges-Planfilmmagazin-Planfilm-Magazin-Film-Holder-/380547625314?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Ersatzteile_Werkzeuge&hash=item589a67f162 "

Tin Can
11-Mar-2013, 20:12
This is the type, but wrong size. I have never used this type of holder and back. Do some more research. I could be wrong. It happens.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Linhof-9x12-Cassette-extremely-good-condition-/230904572531?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D333005%26algo%3DRIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D12%26meid%3D6181517521876925164%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D111010796145%26

Steven Tribe
12-Mar-2013, 03:19
Yes, Randy is correct.
The appearance as to finish does differ (see the stack of film holders in my earlier post) slightly.

The link items that the OP posted at e**y will not work.
The original "technika" 9x12 and 13x18 used the 20's and 30's method which was a system of a slightly raised velvet light seal - against a completely flush surface on the plate holder. The holder is held in place (usually!) by the small catch at the entry end.

This is a good working system and the only problem is the loose GG when making exposures.

Orphaned backs will turn up - hopefully at more reasonable prices than the one's found!

cmace127
12-Mar-2013, 09:46
There is a specific thread associated with Linhof serial numbers. Just search for it and post in there.

Eric

Sorry about that! I thought I was in the Linhof Serial Number thread.

Bush
12-Mar-2013, 10:34
Thank you, all!
I'm curious about Ground glass size. While I measured it exactly 17cmx12cm, it couldn't cover 13x18cm or surely 5x7 inch.
Anyway, finding such a old school holders could be impossible. Looking for a attached back using 5x7 modern holders.

Steven Tribe
12-Mar-2013, 13:13
Linhof considered it "bad form" to have desired image under 5mm of the edge, perhaps?

Finding a back that fits well is far more difficult than picking up a few holders.

Tin Can
12-Mar-2013, 14:18
I have to agree. Butchering a back onto the camera will result in a worth less, far less, camera. Use the auto search on eBay for what you want. You will find the single sided holders, if you are patient. I looked for my camera a long time, missed it on eBay due to an emergency, and lack of fore-thought, but finally got it.

Contact the guy selling one on eBay and ask him if he has any holders.


Linhof considered it "bad form" to have desired image under 5mm of the edge, perhaps?

Finding a back that fits well is far more difficult than picking up a few holders.

Tin Can
15-Mar-2013, 10:22
One like it, just showed up on eBay WITH the holders you need...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261184251800&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_16733wt_1395

Steven Tribe
15-Mar-2013, 14:35
This is the post-war model - but they still had the "right" film holders!

Tin Can
15-Mar-2013, 17:09
Not sure the OP is still with us. Very funny Steven, those holders do seem rare, I seldom see them for sale in any size. I am very glad mine uses the 'wrong' ones, DDS tradition be damned.

That said, I am such an idiot, I am sure I will end up owning the 'right' 5X7 Pre and Post War Technika Standard sooner or later. Once you touch the Linhof Tree of Wisdom, you are ruined for life...

Wait, I am rereading you comment. You say one on eBay is POST WAR?

Here we go, here is mine. Please comment as you will, with any info please!

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This is the post-war model - but they still had the "right" film holders!

Tin Can
17-Mar-2013, 11:50
These are the wrong size, but show better how they are made. I love 6x9 and wish I had the camera for these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bertram-folding-original-6x9-dark-slide-sheet-film-plates-back-holders-set-of-4-/121077202610?pt=US_Film_Backs_Holders&hash=item1c30c37eb2

Tin Can
18-Mar-2013, 09:49
Somebody is paying attention. Here is a back to convert the OP's camera to DDS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111034253905&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1414

Steven Tribe
18-Mar-2013, 10:10
Well done - you are awarded 10 brownie points for a perfect find - for somebody!

Tin Can
18-Mar-2013, 10:14
Can't help it, I am an eBay addict.

Now, I wonder how much it will sell for...

Also, this is nothing the OP could not have made himself.



Well done - you are awarded 10 brownie points for a perfect find - for somebody!