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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Boley View Post
    I agree with Mark's point, this is not intrinsic to the process. Which brings me to one of my pet peeves.. many have not come to terms with the fact that good ink printing requires a commitment, just like any other "craft". Many have spent decades in the darkroom, probably most produced in the first decade long since worthy only of the trash, then spend no time really learning inkjet and make a judgement about the entire category based on entry level output.
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    Totally agree. I encountered the "blah grays" too-I suspect every one does. But I encounter them often in silver printing too. In either case I find pushing them up/down the scale, or toning can solve the problem and or switching papers (or inks or developers) can solve the problem. I frankly have never found a quick inkjet or silver print to be satisfying. Sometimes a day but oftentimes longer and even much longer.
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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    Word. I'm a big fan of Tony Kuyper's Luminosity Masks and utilize the "Extended Midtones" action on nearly every image to get strong mid tone separation. Highly recommended.

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    Quote Originally Posted by bob carnie View Post
    Street work with Leica is a much harder printing experience than typical work. I find this style of printing the hardest to master and do.
    I agree with this; if I may make a sweeping generalization, 35mm was always the hardest, by far, to print satisfactorily in the wet darkroom.

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Barrett View Post
    Word. I'm a big fan of Tony Kuyper's Luminosity Masks and utilize the "Extended Midtones" action on nearly every image to get strong mid tone separation. Highly recommended.
    Me too. If I remember right I suggested them to you? It was a while ago.
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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    I hate forum posts that primarily attempt to bring clicks to someone's blog.. but to the uninitiated about some of the issues of fine B&W ink prints.. some of you may slog through this-

    http://tylerboley.com/hahnemuhle-mus...nd-evaluation/

    It touches on many of the issues involved with B&W ink work, paper selection and why, etc., even if the particulars might not be relevant to most.
    So you still think we just hit the "print" button?

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    I'll have to find out more about Tony Kuyper's Photoshop masking. Should be easy to ask him as he's my next next door neighbor.

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    I also use Tony's luminosity masks on a regular basis.
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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    I've been playing a bit on both grounds and I'm sure not being able to answer such kind of question regarding the results of each workflow, as both can achieve beautiful results. But I can say there's much more fun and fulfillment doing the wet print than starting the start botton, although this vision can rapidly change when one considers big prints.

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    are you referring to the "start learning" button? Sorry I couldn't resist

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    Re: Do your best BW inkjets matched or surpass your best BW wet prints?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Boley View Post
    are you referring to the "start learning" button? Sorry I couldn't resist
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