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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by welly View Post
    ... but wondering if there's any real benefit of shooting 8x10 over 4x5 if I'm not contact printing?
    Imagine doing this with a 4x5:
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    It would look even more ridiculous, wouldn't it?

    It's easier doing macro work with an 8x10 and a 4x5 reducing back.
    A lot of the "interesting" lenses were made for the larger formats.
    X-ray film is sold in 8x10 as a minimum size.
    Dust is only so big. When you have a larger negative, the dust's image is 1/4 the size as on a 4x5.

    It just feels good!
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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller View Post
    Imagine doing this with a 4x5:
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    Sorry, could you please explain: Is the cardboard being used as a darkcloth ? a bellows ?

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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    You'd look way cooler standing next to a big ol 8x10 than a 4by

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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by welly View Post
    Ok, I'm pretty much sold. It's lucky I don't have a wife I suppose.
    You have an ideal situation. And, when you start printing 8x10 negatives at 16x20, really a large print size for display in a home, you'll be mesmerised.
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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    8x10 photography does have one major disadvantage. It's highly addictive.

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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Lee View Post
    Sorry, could you please explain: Is the cardboard being used as a darkcloth ? a bellows ?
    An extension. Remember the most recent Manarchy thread about him having a 21ft camera? And wanting to build one that fits on a semi trailer bed? (Kickstarter page)

    That's what I did with an old box to get some idea of building a camera like that.
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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    If you're talking about technical benefit in the sense of more detail or better tonal gradations with enlarged prints from 8x10 negatives vs 4x5s, no benefit that I noticed after doing both (b&w, no color) for several years unless you're making really large prints, like something bigger than 20x24. But 8x10 is a very enjoyable format to use, there's nothing like viewing the image on that big ground glass unless it's viewing the image on a bigger ground glass.
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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    8x10 photography does have one major disadvantage. It's highly addictive.
    I thought a key part of addiction was that it affect your life in a negative manner.
    One man's Mede is another man's Persian.

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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    I don't like contact printing 4x5 negatives.

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    Re: Any benefit to 8x10 over 4x5 if not contact printing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller View Post
    Imagine doing this with a 4x5:
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    It would look even more ridiculous, wouldn't it?

    It's easier doing macro work with an 8x10 and a 4x5 reducing back.
    A lot of the "interesting" lenses were made for the larger formats.
    X-ray film is sold in 8x10 as a minimum size.
    Dust is only so big. When you have a larger negative, the dust's image is 1/4 the size as on a 4x5.

    It just feels good!
    Good points. If you have an 8x10 camera, all you need is an assortment of backs, you'll have 4x5, 5x7, wholeplate, etc. I've even used a 56x72mm Super Rollex back on a 4x5 back on my Deardorff V8. With the Deardorff, and some others, you can use splitter boards and get two 4x10 or 5x8 negatives on 8x10 film.
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