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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Beautiful Giovanni! I definitely would have been concerned about Velvia for a scene like that - ND Grads would be key!

    I just wanted to add that I am in complete agreement about white texture. About +1 2/3 stops (at ASA50) is as high as I would expose and hope to retain any texture, with it being pretty well pure white at +2.

    Frustratingly, I can usually see detail below -2 stops but scanning it gets very difficult, so i don't count on using it.
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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe View Post
    Beautiful Giovanni! I definitely would have been concerned about Velvia for a scene like that - ND Grads would be key!

    I just wanted to add that I am in complete agreement about white texture. About +1 2/3 stops (at ASA50) is as high as I would expose and hope to retain any texture, with it being pretty well pure white at +2.

    Frustratingly, I can usually see detail below -2 stops but scanning it gets very difficult, so i don't count on using it.

    You surely can see by the clock on top of the building that was pretty noon
    when I shoot this, even if the shadows are so angled, in summertime the sun at noon make vertical short shadows...

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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe View Post
    Beautiful Giovanni! I definitely would have been concerned about Velvia for a scene like that - ND Grads would be key!

    I just wanted to add that I am in complete agreement about white texture. About +1 2/3 stops (at ASA50) is as high as I would expose and hope to retain any texture, with it being pretty well pure white at +2.

    Frustratingly, I can usually see detail below -2 stops but scanning it gets very difficult, so i don't count on using it.
    Do you mean +1 2/3 from middle grey?

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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J McDonald View Post
    Do you mean +1 2/3 from middle grey?
    I should have been clearer, but yes, that's what I meant.
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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by MumbleyJoe View Post
    I should have been clearer, but yes, that's what I meant.
    Wow there isn't much room there. Thanks for that info, I have some of this film I'm yet to use.

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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    The usual caveats apply - test with your own equipment (meter, shutter, etc) when possible. There might be a little more latitude than that, but not much, IMHO.

    I went through lots of trial and error before finally just spending the money (which is so painful shooting and sending out Velvia) to make a few controlled test shots. In the end, I don't regret just making the test shots.
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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Thanks Joe (Tyler?). I also have some in 35mm I might try first.

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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Salve, Giovanni,

    you have quite bad scanning results, blocked shadows.

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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom J McDonald View Post
    Thanks Joe (Tyler?). I also have some in 35mm I might try first.

    Glad to help/clarify
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    Re: 4x5 Velvia 50-First Outing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Cole View Post
    On sunny days with Velvia, you are pretty much limited to the golden hours and possibly a bit more with the use of graduated filters. It is definitely not a mid-day film except on overcast days or deep in the forest.
    Yups...the moment I went to the place and saw the bright sun out, I went "uh...oh.."

    I did try using an 81A warming filter, but I can't find an adapter for my Optar and hand holding it in front of the lens is a PITA....I even screwed up my first shot where my hand showed up and at $3 a shot just for developing, can't afford too many of those mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harley Goldman View Post
    Your metering looks pretty good. As Jim nicely summed up, Velvia is not a film for harsh light conditions. The shadows block up fast. Under these conditions, try Astia or some color negative film. I think you will find it works much better for brighter light.
    My safety shots are my Kodak Ektar shots on my Pentax 645N. They are currently at Walmart for developing

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