Pro printers...do you save any prints?

[slackercruster]

Thanks Bob C for the detailed rundown!

[Mark Barendt]

Yes, I understand about the profit deal. Would there be a problem saving proofs for your own use? Enjoyment?

You need permission from the copyright holder for any use.

A hypothetical:

If I hired you as "my printer" for a work of mine, your "fee & terms" would be known before I handed you the negative.

If a printers proof was not part of our deal and you kept one I'd be pissed, mostly because you were not playing straight with me.

If/when I found out, I'd either want the print back or destroyed in front of me & I might even sue or have you charged with theft or embezzlement or something.

Your reputation as a printer and all round good guy would be in serious jeopardy.

Conversly, If you did as Bob does, with the terms fully known before the fact, then we'd all be happy.

[IanG]

Mark's really added what I would say.

Having printed for others in the past I don't have any proofs or final prints, anything left over was destroyed and all negatives etc returned. We were printing for commercial photographers the images were of no interest anyway.

Bob Carnie is printing for a different sector of the market and is handling the issues in an appropriate manner which is mutual to both parties.

I have been in a situation where I found some of my images being used by someone else in his portfolio, I took appropriate action which meant liasing with his employer - there had been no monetary gain.

Ian

[Steve Smith]

If a printers proof was not part of our deal and you kept one I'd be pissed.

Except that you probably wouldn't know about it.


Steve.

[Mark Barendt]

Except that you probably wouldn't know about it.


Steve.

True, but that doesn't make it ethical or right.

Are you suggesting that that type of behavior is acceptable?

[Steve Smith]

Are you suggesting that that type of behavior is acceptable?

No I'm not.

But if someone is keeping prints which he isn't supposed to be keeping then he's not going to tell you about it.


Steve.

[slackercruster]

I get the idea with pro printers.

Guess I just look at it differently since I've never made a dime from photography. Once $$ is involved things are different.

[Mark Barendt]

I get the idea with pro printers.

Guess I just look at it differently since I've never made a dime from photography. Once $$ is involved things are different.

Not just money, money as a Professional artist.

If you send off stuff of your kids in the backyard playing would you want some lab tech taking those pictures home, for their own use?

[marfa boomboom tx]

Once $$ is involved things are different.

it is a small world that fits on money.

[ROL]

I've heard the term 'proof' over the years but did not know what it meant.

Is a proof print one of the first prints on a run? Can it be different / lesser quality than a standard run print?

What exactly does 'proof' mean?

FYI: PhotoBiz -> Editioning