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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    The founder of this site, QT Luong, shoots 5x7 and was a serious climber. I am not sure at what level his climbing was when he carried a view camera, but I suspect he did some challenging terrain.

    But all things considered, 4x5 is a nice size threshold for going large - any smaller and you don't see a large enough difference over good digital or medium format film.

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    Thank you Frank,
    happy to hear this (I mean QT Luong)

    All things considered ... i think that 4x5 could be the right option for me when i'm out trekking etcetera..
    I could have a 5x7 just to have a brighter(maybe) and bigger view ...but i think it isn't worth it.

    I'm quite happy with my Shen with fresnel...
    i think i'll stay for a while..
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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    5x7 is my native format, just right. 4x5 or 8x10 is too boxy for my taste so I cropped most of them anyway. A 5x7 Nagaoka will be lighter than a 4x5 Shen Hao, put a 4x5 reducing back on it and it is a Shen anyway. 20 5x7 holders are heavy, but 4 or 5 is no problem. I can fit my 5x7, a 210 and a 300, meter, blower, black shirt darkcloth filmholders and raingear food etc in a 28l day pack. A 5x7 wet scanned on a betterscanning holder in a v700 makes a spectacular print, and gives you the option of scanning it professionally and almost making a Gursky sized monster as good as anything out of an 8x10, because there are some spectacular lenses available for 5x7. a 5x7 makes a nice contact, but so does a 4x5, just the detail can live a little freer in the slightly bigger print. 4x5 is fun too. I would really like to take my 5x7 into the big mountains, if I had a choice it would not be 4x5 because it suffers from too much sky or too much forground.

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    thanks mdm
    for confusing me again
    :-)

    just a question
    do you have a 5x7 horizontal only or convertible too?
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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    No, a Nagaoka or a Canham can do portrait or landscape. On a practical level, print size is the major determinant. http://www.largeformatphotography.info/5x7.html

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotah Jackson View Post
    great analysis
    thank you Dakota!
    i will read it again carefully

    it says "5x7 The perfect move up from 35mm"
    ok good consideration...
    but i'm arriving from squared medium format..
    i suppose it makes no differences...
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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto Bregani View Post
    great analysis
    thank you Dakota!
    i will read it again carefully

    it says "5x7 The perfect move up from 35mm"
    ok good consideration...
    but i'm arriving from squared medium format..
    i suppose it makes no differences...
    At the same time, a change in format is a good excuse to change the way one sees!

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    Please allow me to add to the confusion.

    I am moving to 5x7 because I like the aspect ratio; all of my lenses with the exception of the Schneider 120 L cover the format. I am adding a couple in the longer range. When I'm looking at a 5x7 ground glass I feel like I'm in... Photography Heaven! I don't do any climbing, only hiking on the Appenines (Tosco-Emiliano) and parts of New York State. I have only started in 5x7 and haven't even shot a box of film yet. I don't plan to abandon 4x5 but I expect to do most of my future work in the larger format. The only things that are truly considerably heavier and bulkier are the holders.

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    A little perspective: http://www.mountainlight.com/gallery.html

    It is not about the equipment or the format. Galen used the smallest lightest lenses (which in 35mm in this day also meant simple and cheap). His view was the important thing was being there, and the more gear he carried, the less often he would be there.

    You are not even going to see any difference between 4x5 and 5x7 unless you make huge prints - do you? Even then, my bet is that in difficult field shooting the problems with DOF, shutter speed, and camera stability in the wind is going to wash out the difference.

    So, we shoot LF for personal satisfaction. There is no advantage in selling prints to the public - they like Peter Link and Thomas Kinkade - and rich people like whatever gallery owners convince them is the flavor of the day.

    If you think doubling the weight of your gear on those climbs will be worth the joy of having slightly larger negatives, then go for it. If it were me, as I get older and stiffer, I would be thinking about whether I could well enough with a Leica or a digital camera with a PC lens.

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    Re: 4x5" to 5x7"... is it worth changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Richards View Post
    A little perspective: http://www.mountainlight.com/gallery.html

    It is not about the equipment or the format. Galen used the smallest lightest lenses (which in 35mm in this day also meant simple and cheap). His view was the important thing was being there, and the more gear he carried, the less often he would be there. ...
    Ed you're right
    It's not about the format or equipment
    even if everyone of us has its format that fit his vision
    I love 6x6 and i usually shoot that way
    but now i'm trying to find my way in LF too..

    your comments means much to me
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