Stricter Guildelines Enforcement Now In Effect

[Sal Santamaura]

The conversation was with Kirk, not you...

If you ever do start your own forum, it will be important for you to understand some basic distinctions. Trading email or PM messages would have been a conversation between you and Kirk. Posting in a public thread is a public discussion, open to quoting and comment by other participants.

...I will think what I want to think, and I ask that you respect that.

I respect your right to, within the rules and in a civil manner, post about what you think. In this case, I have no respect for what you think on the subject. I've posted my disagreement with what you think in a civil manner that's within the rules.

[Ralph Barker]

For those advocating that political and religious discussions be allowed here, a little LFPF history lesson may be in order. We tried that, and it didn't work. The Lounge was originally an experiment to see if discussions of these topics could be accomplished in a civil manner, without infringing on the primary LF sections of the forum. Not only did the discussions turn decidedly uncivil, but also the resulting animosities spilled over into the LF discussions. So, the experiment was ended, and the current rules forbidding those topics put in place. Had we not done so, the forum would have been shut down years ago and none of us would be posting anything here.

[Preston]

Ralph--

+1

In my humble opinion, there are plenty of places where one can discuss politics and religion, and LFPF is not one of them, fortunately. The decision to eliminate those kinds of discussions has, indeed, made this forum a better place.

I really appreciate the work the moderators do here, and I also appreciate the great advice I've received on technical matters, and the comments on my images.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays to all!

--P

[Kevin J. Kolosky]

If you ever do start your own forum, it will be important for you to understand some basic distinctions. Trading email or PM messages would have been a conversation between you and Kirk. Posting in a public thread is a public discussion, open to quoting and comment by other participants.

I will be sure and remember that when I see your posts.

[Eric Rose]

I don't understand all the back and forth this thread has generated. A greater mystery to me is why didn't the mods just make their pronouncement and then lock the thread. They make the rules, we follow them. It's like the army. Get over it.

[Dan Fromm]

are there any forums with little or no moderation ?
sounds like a place i would never want to visit...

That was the rec.photo.* groups on usenet that were. Remember them? No fun at all, and not very helpful either. Too much heat, too little light.

[Dan Fromm]

I don't understand all the back and forth this thread has generated. A greater mystery to me is why didn't the mods just make their pronouncement and then lock the thread. They make the rules, we follow them. It's like the army. Get over it.

Funny, when I was in the army getting over had a very different sense ...

[BrianShaw]

That was the rec.photo.* groups on usenet that were. Remember them? No fun at all, and not very helpful either. Too much heat, too little light.

That memory gives me heartburn!

[Darin Boville]

For those advocating that political and religious discussions be allowed here...

I'm not aware of anyone seriously suggesting an unmoderated forum or anyone suggesting that political and religious discussions be given a free reign. The world is not a binary one.

--Darin

[jnantz]

That was the rec.photo.* groups on usenet that were. Remember them? No fun at all, and not very helpful either. Too much heat, too little light.

yeah i almost forgot about rec. ...
the 1990s were like the wild wild west.
you are right, not too helpful and a lot of hot air ...

i kind of miss jeeves, but at least he is vacationing
somewhere enjoying exotic drinks on an island ...

dan ... thanks for reminding me how far we have come !

john