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    NPS permits in Arizona

    Tim beat me to adding a link from this very site that details policies in NPs. However, beware of shooting in some locations in California, as they have their own sets of rules in some cases. (Not too surprising, I guess. It IS California, after all.) Tim's link (http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/) is a treasure trove of information.

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    I was in Arizona in February of this year and had no trouble. I photographed a number of places but the only NPS property was the south rim of the Grand Canyon. Had no trouble. Even had a nice conversation with a park ranger.

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    Kirk,

    One thing I have noticed of late in Arizona, and I mean within the last two years or so, is a certain sensitivity of the NPS people after the fires we have had. I tried last year to get permission to go into the area above Tucson which had burned due to the Aspen fire. This was the second major fire in two years in our area. The year before, the Rodeo-Chediski set a record in the state for timber and habitat loss, it was terrible. I was not able to get permission and did notice, after the fire, a very real edge to personnel in the area.

    So, to answer your question, I think there is an undertone of negativity now with respect to these people and their jobs. They failed miserably, and publicly, to prevent and then contain these large fires. Untold thousands of acres were burned and destroyed so that it will take centuries for habitat to return to "normal." In many areas the soil was sterilized, completely stripped of organic matter, a vast lunar landscape which goes on for miles. This is fallout form the fires, they have become hypersensative to other issues due to a sense of loss and outrage over the fires.

    Just my opinion.

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    FWIW, there also seems to be a trend in Arizona toward revenue generation. Not specifically with the NPS, but more regional in nature, to help support the overall maintenance of the "tourist" regions. The regional "parking permits" around the Sedona area is an example. Park Service budgets have also been under a lot of pressure in recent years, so I suspect there is also a subtle motivation for staff to look for ways to assist revenues.

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    See also http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/

    Jeff Conrad keeps this page current to follow the last regulations, in fact it has been updated this month.

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    NPS permits in Arizona

    It’s annoying to repeatedly deal with claims that professional
    photography on federal lands requires a permit, especially when those
    making the claims should know better. Although it’s tempting to tell
    a ranger to “get lost,” this usually isn’t the most
    productive initial response. Most of these folks are pretty decent (if
    occasionally misinformed), and they usually make far better allies than
    adversaries.

    The safest approach to dealing with a challenge probably is to carry a copy
    of Public Law 106-206 (16 USC 460l-6d). As an act of Congress, it
    trumps anything in the Code of Federal Regulations, including 36 CFR 5.5(b)
    and 36 CFR 7.96. When photographing in National Parks, there certainly is
    no harm in also carrying a copy of the NPS regulations, especially 36 CFR
    5.5 (b), because it is the basis for Pub. L. 106-206.

    No federal agency has yet issued new regulations to implement 106-206.
    The Forest Service and the BLM have issued interim directives to agency
    personnel; the FS directive seems open to interpretations that could
    overreach the authority granted by 106-206, but most forest rangers
    probably have more pressing issues than hassling photographers. Again,
    however, in the event of conflict between an agency directive and act of
    Congress, the latter obviously prevails. What’s sometimes tricky, I
    suppose, is determining if indeed there is a conflict.

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