Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 42

Thread: HDR technique using 4X5 film

  1. #31

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Northeast, US
    Posts
    36

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    I would second the recommendation for trying Enfuse - in fact I would suggest you try the whole process in Hugin, which incorporates Enfuse. Hugin is free, open-source software available on most platforms. It gives much more control in aligning and transforming images than Photoshop's Photomerge function (which is not an option for you anyway I don't think in the original Creative Suite).

    The algorithms in Enfuse are very good at avoiding any halos, which are easy to create when manually masking between layers with a brush in PS.

    As far as special considerations doing this with scanned LF film: I think it depends on how you mount the film - I've found with my Epson V700 that if I scan a 6x7 negative multiple times, each scan will look slightly distorted compared to the others, when using the OEM Epson holder. I believe the heat from the lamp makes the negative move a little over time. If you were dry-mounting or wet-mounting onto a piece of glass, I think this would be much less of an issue.

    I have read comments about the motor that drives the ccd in Epson scanners not having perfect registration or identical movement speed from scan-to-scan, but I can't comment on this from personal experience. I would point out, however, that Lasersoft must believe it is accurate enough since they offer a feature in Silverfast that combines multiple scans of one negative...
    Chamonix Saber + Nikkor-W 135/5.6 // Travelwide 90 // Mystery 4x5 // Fotoman 69s + Nikkor-SW 65/4 // Paubel Makina 67 // Pentax 35mm // NEX Digital //
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunstadt/

  2. #32
    Industrial Design Sculptor
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Albion NY
    Posts
    25

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    I have had success with my Imacon scans. So far I've only used two images. Photomatix software has had no problem aligning the images to my delight (involved translating and rotating the images). Download a trial version and give it a try.
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke

  3. #33

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    40

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    As mentioned above, get the Enfuse plugin for Lightroom. It is the only high-dynamic-range software of any kind that gives natural looking results in my experience.

  4. #34
    Kirk Gittings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico
    Posts
    9,864

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    I have read comments about the motor that drives the ccd in Epson scanners not having perfect registration or identical movement speed from scan-to-scan, but I can't comment on this from personal experience. I would point out, however, that Lasersoft must believe it is accurate enough since they offer a feature in Silverfast that combines multiple scans of one negative...
    Which, the last time I tried it, couldn't properly align the multiple passes because of the cheap step motors in Epson scanners that give a varying length to the multiple passes. It may have been fixed in later versions. I gave up on it.
    Thanks,
    Kirk

    at age 73:
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

  5. #35

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    110
    Quote Originally Posted by thrice View Post
    As mentioned above, get the Enfuse plugin for Lightroom. It is the only high-dynamic-range software of any kind that gives natural looking results in my experience.
    The "Fusion" method (previously named Exposure Blending) contained in Photomatix is based on the same algorithm and gives you very natural results. As mentioned before, Photomatix also has much better methods to align the images than Enfuse.

    Cheers,
    Andreas
    To infinity - and beyond...

  6. #36

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Austin TX
    Posts
    2,049

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    Hey Kirk, thanks; that was one of the comments I was looking for about registration of multiple scans. I have recently tried Photomatix using two 4X5 images and found that the registration is OK from V750 scans. My V750 is about 1.5 years old so is somewhat recent and has only seen perhaps 500 scans total. Maybe age of the scanner makes some difference.

    Nate Potter, Austin TX.

  7. #37
    Kirk Gittings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico
    Posts
    9,864

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    FWIW again. As I have said a couple of times above. IME exposure Fusion in Photomatix does not give as natural results as LR/Enfuse. If it did I wouldn't have given up on it after a couple of years of effort-switched to LR/Enfuse and never looked back. Exposure fusion in general is critical to how I make my living and I try to test every new program that comes out-always looking for a better tool. It is essential to me. Right now that is IMO LR/Enfuse and SNS HDR Pro. Neither of which has any problems aligning my images.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valdecus View Post
    The "Fusion" method (previously named Exposure Blending) contained in Photomatix is based on the same algorithm and gives you very natural results. As mentioned before, Photomatix also has much better methods to align the images than Enfuse.

    Cheers,
    Andreas
    Thanks,
    Kirk

    at age 73:
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

  8. #38
    Peter De Smidt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Fond du Lac, WI, USA
    Posts
    8,971

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    You can always align images in Photoshop and then output the layers as files which can then be HDR'd by whatever you like.
    “You often feel tired, not because you've done too much, but because you've done too little of what sparks a light in you.”
    ― Alexander Den Heijer, Nothing You Don't Already Know

  9. #39
    Kirk Gittings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico
    Posts
    9,864

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    Interesting approach. Align, crop, save then to HDR? Works for me.
    Thanks,
    Kirk

    at age 73:
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

  10. #40
    Peter De Smidt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Fond du Lac, WI, USA
    Posts
    8,971

    Re: HDR technique using 4X5 film

    For a script to help out with this, see: http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_...ent/index.html
    “You often feel tired, not because you've done too much, but because you've done too little of what sparks a light in you.”
    ― Alexander Den Heijer, Nothing You Don't Already Know

Similar Threads

  1. City of Shadows crime photos? Anyone know what technique was used herethis technique
    By mandonbossi in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 3-Jul-2011, 15:10
  2. 4x5 Film Loading. Handling film surfaces, and loading technique? Need your expertise.
    By l2oBiN in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 7-Dec-2010, 11:33
  3. Technique on sheet film in tubes
    By Eric Woodbury in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 31-Jul-2009, 08:00
  4. Margaret Bourke-White technique w/16x20 film
    By Toyon in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 25-Jan-2009, 17:06
  5. Bulk Film: Cut-down technique?
    By Rob_5419 in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 30-Oct-2005, 10:26

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •