Thanks, I've got a guy right now trying to sell me a B&J 5x7 Grover view camera, complete kit with aluminum box, don't know what lens it has yet, will see it tomorrow. It has film holders with it, again I do not know how many. Wants $275. I said I'd have to check the bellows and listen to the shutter, and of course look it over. If everything checks out how does that price sound?