Thanks, I've got a guy right now trying to sell me a B&J 5x7 Grover view camera, complete kit with aluminum box, don't know what lens it has yet, will see it tomorrow. It has film holders with it, again I do not know how many. Wants $275. I said I'd have to check the bellows and listen to the shutter, and of course look it over. If everything checks out how does that price sound?
I know nothing about Packard shutters, except that they are not all that expensive. Are they any good? Why doesn't everyone use them instead of the more expensive shuttered lenses? What is a good price for 8x10 film holders? I'd jump on a $100 back. This camera was in a package deal, a bonus. The thought of 8x10 contact prints is exciting.
ic-racer, I just read your thread, all I can say is WOW!!! You did a great job, and I learned a great deal. My B&J will be simple to work on compared to that beauty of yours. All I will need is some grey paint.
IanG, I just read the article on restoring a B&J 8x10. It was very interesting and just what I needed. Thanks, I am learning, I'll be looking at my "Free Camera" in a different light now. There is potential in it!
Bill
Sure Packard shutters are good. I've been using them for almost sixty years. They are air operated, so don't shake the camera when making the exposures. They are (usually) a time, bulb, and instantanious shutter Instant speed is usually in the neighborhood of 1/20 th second. By choosing film speed for various conditions, the instnt speed is not much of a problem.Originally Posted by Bill, 70's military B&W
premortho,
I picked up a B&J 5x7 Grover, and it came with a Voigtlander Collinear Series ii no. 6 f 6.3 focus 12 1/2 inch, and I believe a Packard Shutter. I do not have the bulb or little hose/attachment, so I do not know if it works or not. The lens comes apart and the glass is clean. I'm trying to learn something about that lens. It looks like if it was a "No. 8" it would be worth a lot of money. Have not found anything on the No. 6 yet.
Hey Bill
The lens is a nice high quality Voigtlander Dagor copy with very good coverage stopped down. Something like 80-85 degrees for the series II stopped all the way down.
The other thing is at f6.3 it an very usable speed and will have a great draw at 12 1/2" FL on 5x7.
Also will be very useful as an all around lens on 8x10 if you go that direction and good as universal lens on 5x7 on the longer side FL wise.
Good score man!
You would do well to post photos of the parts your trying to figure out.
Do you need the tube and air bulb to open and close the shutter?
Louis,
I just had some time to look up Packard shutters, and it is not a Packard. Wrong design. I found Acme written on a dial. Does that mean anything??? Do I CLA this shutter??? Or do I mount it into a better shutter, and if that is the case how does this NEWBIE go about doing that. I live in a small town so the only option is mailing it away or doing it myself. What approx would that cost? Any suggestions? The Acme shutter does not look very promising, not beat up or anything, just very ancient and I'd guess not very reliable at reproducing consistent shutter speeds. I will be the first to say that I have no knowledge or experience to back that up. Which is why I am writing the board.
I've got a lens that is sounding better every minute, now what do I do with it? I have both a 5x7 and an 8x10. I have not used either yet.
Bill, don't know the size of your lens and so do'nt know what size shutter it would fit inn. The Acme shutter you mentioned is made by Ilex and there are different size's #1,2,3,4, ect. Here is a site that might be of help http://www.butkus.org/chinon/ilex/il...me_shutter.htm Mr Butkus has spent a great deal of time and energy collecting this info an is a great site when in need of information on the older equipment.
Mike
The Ilex Acme is a good shutter, but probably should be cleaned lubed and adjusted. Any first class shutter tech will be able to get it tuned up again. These are tough and long lived shutters.
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