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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    Yes but, more often than not, I need to focus a bit closer than infinity.

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    I have the older 45N-1 and bought the Chamonix 60mm extension rail. My next purchase is a 100mm extension lens board (top-hat). That combination will provide 555mm of total extension. I'll not be mounting a monster lens on the top-hat but a 450 Fujinon-C is fine and, for what I'll be shooting, 555mm extension is more than enough. Heck, I may get a 75mm top-hat instead. That's still 530mm of total extension.
    Would I be able to get away with the extension only with a 360? 99% of it's possible use would be for landscapes, so I would not be going all that close...

    I think I have decided that if I am going to do this, a not gigantic 350-360 is what I really want...

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    I'd certainly think so. That's 455mm of bellows extension. For landscapes that should be fine. It should be fine for close portraits or still lifes too. You could always get an extension board later if you need it.

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    So a 355mm G Claron or Fuji 360 W 6.3 in Copal 3 weighs what, 2+ pounds and covers the entire front standard?

    I dunno man, a Copal-1 already feels big on this camera...

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    I opted for a Kodak Ektar 203mm, 300mm Fujinon-C and 450mm Fujinon-C. These are all in Copal or Compur #1 shutters so they're very compact. I also like the 1.5x spacing of the focal lengths.

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    The Fuji 450 is worth the dough. Great lens!! I use mine in the 45N-1 with the extension bracket.

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    Harley... You've never had need for an extension board with the 450? How close can you focus with it?

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    Yes but, more often than not, I need to focus a bit closer than infinity.
    sure, not a problem. I'm not sure how close I can focus but it's to the point that I'm afraid of harming the bellows (8-10ft). I'd rather use my 305 at that point as it's sharper for close work anyway.

    Kodachrome, I wouldn't put a copal 3 5.6 or 6.3 lens on this camera, just too big and HEAVY. Too much stress on the front standard. Same goes for a top hat and a copal 3 shutter. Not that it can't be done.

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    "I'm not sure how close I can focus"

    "How close can you focus with it?"

    Formula to determine how close you can focus, given focal length and bellows draw:

    D = distance between the lens and the subject (focused)
    F = the focal length of the lens
    E = bellows draw

    D = (E x F) / (E - F)

    Example: If the bellows draw is 330mm and you are using a 300mm lens

    E = 330
    F = 300

    D = (E x F) / (E - F)
    D = 300x330 / 30
    D = 3300 = 3.3 M or around 10 feet

    Example: The bellows draw is 330mm and you are using a 210m lens

    E = 330mm
    F = 210mm

    Then D = (330x210) / (330-210)
    = 330x210 / 120
    = 577mm = 1.89 feet

    Example: The bellows draw is 475mm and you are using a 450mm lens

    E = 475mm
    F = 450mm

    Then D = (475x450) / (475-450)
    = 475x450 / 25
    = 8.55m = 28 feet

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    Re: Best lens over 240mm for landscapes in 4x5...

    Sounds like you have plenty of recommendations thus far....but just to add my opinion, I have a nikkor 300-m and 450-m that I use for landscape on 4x5. While the Fuji 450 is smaller and I'm sure an excellent lens it more expensive and I had a hard time finding one so I went with the nikkor and have no regrets. It light for a copal 3, though I don't hike far....and its not my heaviest or largest 4x5 lens so my opinion on this is probably not relevant, its also awesome on 8x10 ( though I am sure the Fuji is as well). And the 300-m is a real gem, if I had to only Cary to lenses in a compact kit it would be my 150 sironar-s and my 300-m. It still surprises me how often I reach for these lenses as I thought of myself as a slightly wider than normal shooter for many years.....but now I'm nor sure what I would do without them.
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