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    Analogue or Digital?

    This is one of my pet peeves-

    There can be so much heated debate about the word 'Bokeh' which actually refers to identifiable qualities within a picture, but when did people start referring to film photography as analogue photography? To me, it just implies that it's the opposite of digital, like Dog is the opposite of Cat...

    This is not a Film v. Digital argument, more of a question- given, in particular, the effects of reciprocity on the exposure of film, can it properly be termed 'Analogue' at all, or is it just a digital age affectation? Also, since a grain of silver is either exposed and developed, or unexposed and dissolved, surely it's more akin to a 1 0 digital, em, analogy, for want of a better word?

    If it can be argued that traditional photography is Analogue, then I'll accept it, but if there's dissent, then I might prefer to continue calling it film, or wet-plate, or whatever it is...

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    It's analog but you don't have to call it that. It doesn't have to be linear nor follow a predictable log scale to be analog to answer your question about reciprocity.

    When I look at grain under the focusing scope, I see lots of shades of gray and not a uniform grid of pixels that are read according to a 8/12/14/16 bit digitizer chip.

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by jp498 View Post
    It's analog but you don't have to call it that.
    Not sure if you're joking... But in English, it's spelled analogue.

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbryld View Post
    Not sure if you're joking... But in English, it's spelled analogue.
    I noticed they spell a lot of things wrong over there.

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlowski6132 View Post
    I noticed they spell a lot of things wrong over there.
    I think they specialise in it.

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbryld View Post
    Not sure if you're joking... But in English, it's spelled analogue.
    Correct. However, he's typing in American.
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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Correct. However, he's typing in American.
    It's Newspeak. Be wary of what you say and think. Big Brother is listening... watching.

    I once complimented a nice lady in a bank in San Antonio, Texas regarding her English "accent". She blankly stared back at me silently. I realized my error and reversed my statement admitting that it's we Americans who accent the language. She replied, "Yes, it is Americans who change the English language but you don't accent it. You murder it."

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    It's Newspeak. Be wary of what you say and think. Big Brother is listening... watching.

    I once complimented a nice lady in a bank in San Antonio, Texas regarding her English "accent". Should stared back at me silently. I realized my error and reversed my statement admitting that it's we Americans who accent the language. She replied, "Yes, it is Americans who change the English language but you don't accent it. You murder it."
    In San Antonio? They speak English in San Antonio? I think I would have said "Pendeja!" and smiled broadly. Let's see how good her tex-mex Spanglish is.

    But when I hear the British say such things, and if they are in the mood to spar on the topic, I ask them why their own speech doesn't sound much like Bunyan. Or Shakespeare. Or Chaucer. Or the Venerable Bede. Or Danish (the Angles--English--came from Denmark). Or Saxon. Or Celtic. Or Latin. Or Old Norse. Who's to say that the changes to the language that have occurred on that little island known as the UKoGBaNI in the last 300 years are any more genuine than those that have occurred in the former colonies over that period? People settled here from England starting about the time the King James Bible was first published, but the last time I was in London, what I heard there didn't sound much like what I read in the KJV.

    I've heard it argued by philologists and linguists that the Appalachian accent in America may be closer to the English of the early colonial period than the English spoken elsewhere in either country today.

    Rick "whose surname is an English transliteration--think 'claret' for an example of how badly that goes--of a French description of 'Danish'" Denney

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by rdenney View Post
    In San Antonio? They speak English in San Antonio? I think I would have said "Pendeja!" and smiled broadly. Let's see how good her tex-mex Spanglish is.

    But when I hear the British say such things, and if they are in the mood to spar on the topic, I ask them why their own speech doesn't sound much like Bunyan. Or Shakespeare. Or Chaucer. Or the Venerable Bede. Or Danish (the Angles--English--came from Denmark). Or Saxon. Or Celtic. Or Latin. Or Old Norse. Who's to say that the changes to the language that have occurred on that little island known as the UKoGBaNI in the last 300 years are any more genuine than those that have occurred in the former colonies over that period? People settled here from England starting about the time the King James Bible was first published, but the last time I was in London, what I heard there didn't sound much like what I read in the KJV.

    I've heard it argued by philologists and linguists that the Appalachian accent in America may be closer to the English of the early colonial period than the English spoken elsewhere in either country today.

    Rick "whose surname is an English transliteration--think 'claret' for an example of how badly that goes--of a French description of 'Danish'" Denney
    Be mindful of thine durstful language, sir, lest ye piss off a sharp-tongued Brit with fullsome wit and fearsome sword and thou shalt perish midst thine own misgivings and thine life's labours shall be for naught!!

    We Texans speak Tex-Talk... a far more ree-fined lang-idge and we don't give no rattlesnake's ass what nobody else thinks.

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    Re: Analogue or Digital?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    We Texans speak Tex-Talk... a far more ree-fined lang-idge and we don't give no rattlesnake's ass what nobody else thinks.
    Of course, even in Texas, nothing is set in stone. You'll get a far different accent over there'n Ann-yoo-ack (Anahuac, where my familly comes from), where they jess love them purty flars up against the bob-war fence over there by the awl well, compared to San Antonio (where I lived and ran the traffic signals for many years), where the common conversation at noontime was, "Quieres comer?" "Damn straight!" "Donde?" "It don't make me no le hace!" (That last bit pronounced "noliasi", of course.)

    Rick "native Texan, currently in exile" Denney

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