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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    It does. The CE series of lenses were as good as it ever got for the Tessar design.
    But a good Dagor in the hands of someone who knows how to make it work has more coverage and a smoother character.
    I think I would have a problem making this statement. I don't disagree that Dagors work well in competent hands. The Commercial Ektar was one design made by one company, and one known for quality control.
    The Dagor design was manufactured and modified by several companies over many decades. I think it's hard to compare one to many when comparisons should be one to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdholden View Post
    I think I would have a problem making this statement. I don't disagree that Dagors work well in competent hands. The Commercial Ektar was one design made by one company, and one known for quality control.
    The Dagor design was manufactured and modified by several companies over many decades. I think it's hard to compare one to many when comparisons should be one to one.
    That's why I said "a good Dagor".
    One man's Mede is another man's Persian.

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    Rapid Rectilinears
    Interestingly, I plucked a B+L RR in Kodak TBI shutter off of a 19-ought-whoknowswhen folding camera (122 film size) and was astounded at how nice that RR is. I spent about 1 hour overhauling the shutter and refreshing my memory about US stop conversion. It covered 4x5 just fine and was WAY better than I ever imagined. I ended up repatriating it with the camera which is now in storage awaiting some free-time when I plan on converting it to 120.

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Goerz Dagor.
    E. von Hoegh recommends a Dagor? Who'd a thunk?

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by cdholden View Post
    The Dagor design was manufactured and modified by several companies over many decades. I think it's hard to compare one to many when comparisons should be one to one.
    That is a clear statement of what I think every time I read about people buying "a design" versus buying a specific lens.

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Me? A clear statement? I haven't even had my morning dose of caffeine yet.
    Even a blind squirrel gets a nut now and then.

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    That is a clear statement of what I think every time I read about people buying "a design" versus buying a specific lens.
    Me too. What CDH said about Dagors is correct. One of the nicest I've ever used was made by Schneider and called a Symmar. Perhaps the worst I've ever used was made by Goerz in New York.
    But it is true that certain designs have a certain character.
    One man's Mede is another man's Persian.

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    But it is true that certain designs have a certain character.
    No doubt!

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    I'm fond of both Dagors & CE's.....Since I've given up my 8x10 in favor of 5x7 I sold off my 12" & 14" Commercial Ektars...I'd like to get a hold of an 8 1/2" CE to go along with the Dagors

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    Re: I Just Now "Fully" Realized That I Do NOT Like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble View Post
    I have no doubt that Commercial Ektars can accomplish this. Those of you who have experience with them; Do you think their nice out-of-focus rendering is due largely to their rounder apertures?

    I don't think I can afford later model coated Dagors.
    As has been said here many times, the diaphragm's shape affects rendition of out-of-focus highlights, has nothing to do with the transition from sharp to unsharp.

    Then look for Boyer Beryls (s/n > 250 k) or Berthiot Perigraphes and Eurygraphes (s/n > 900k or prefixed with a letter). And, by the way, with just four air-glass surfaces Dagors and clones don't benefit much from coating.

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