Uh, ok I know this goes against everything but . . .

[false_Aesthetic]

I want more grain. Not a lot more. Just a little bit.
Yes, this totally goes against shooting 5x7 . . . but I (think) want it.
I'm usually shooting Tri-X or HP5 and developing in F76+ (1:9) or Xtol (1:1). (PMK for a few things too).

So here's my description:
Let's say Tri-X in Xtol enlarged to 16x20 is the equiv to 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper.
I wanna go to 320 or 400 grit.

What developers should I start looking at?


Thanks.




PS. Just humor me on this one.

[Gem Singer]

Rodinal.

[adam satushek]

Definitively not my area of expertise....but in the past I have pushed HP5 to like 3200....which increases grain nicely. Though also increases contrast too so that my not be an option. I know longer know anything about developers....but thought id chime in...no matter how useless a comment it may be.

[Mark Sawyer]

I'd go along with trying Rodinal, but I don't think the grain is bigger, just more defined.

You might also try reticulating a negative, shocking it by going from hot water to ice water.

Now go stand in the corner of the forum for saying you like grain...

[bob carnie]

+1

Rodinal.

[Emil Schildt]

I'll show you two images - not mine, but two selfportraits made by my girlfriend...

They are both made from 4x5" negs. (FOMA pan 100 iso)

And it wouldn't matter if she would go bigger (5x7 or 8x10) - grain can be obtained purely during printing.....

[Bill_1856]

Dektol.

[Ari]

You could try undiluted D-76, or buy a Minox

[Roger Cole]

I'll show you two images - not mine, but two selfportraits made by my girlfriend...

They are both made from 4x5" negs. (FOMA pan 100 iso)

And it wouldn't matter if she would go bigger (5x7 or 8x10) - grain can be obtained purely during printing.....

I was going to say - Lith printing.

But that's a rather different effect and may be more "grain" than you want.

In 5x7 it's not going to be easy and maybe not even possible to get visible grain in a 16x20 (from the negative, rather than by printing with lith or a texture screen or the like) with conventional materials.

I'd just suggest shooting Delta 3200 in 120, with a roll film back on a 4x5 camera if you must use a view camera, but that may not be what you're looking for. But if I wanted more visible grain from a camera with movements, that's what I'd do, because I have the 4x5 and roll film back. If I didn't - shit or tilt/shift lens on a 35mm and use Delta 3200 or TMZ and you should get all the grain you want.

I understand liking the look. I like fairly grainy 35mm for some things, but for those images I shoot 35mm (and TMZ) and use the view camera when I want grainless appearance and smooth tonality.

[Old-N-Feeble]

Your post goes against what? Against the grain? Look out... you may get "ripped" a new one.