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    Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    I recently changed the bellows on my Technika V to an ecbuyonline PU-leather bellows. Nice product, folds into the body... but it remains sticky as hell!!
    I have been in contact with Rudy from ecbuyonline, who apologized for the ill-working product and replaced it with a nylon bellows free of charge. Good service.

    BUT, I would like to use the PU-bellows - its smooth, flexible and looks good. What are my options? I have pondered brushing it with a thin layer of talc and carefully removing any excess powder afterwards... but the idea of introducing a superfine grained powder into my camera (film...) sort of scares me. Has any of you succesfully 'fixed' a sticky bellows?

    thanks in advance - I know I can count on you


    PS: the reason I have not changed to the nylon bellows right away is that - as you probably know - it is not that easy, nor fast to change bellows on a Tech.
    PPS: short elaboration on the stickyness - when folded, the bellows become very compressed and when opening the camera and pulling out the front standard, the bellows makes cracky noises that sort of warns me that at some point, it will stick so much to itself that it will effectively disintegrate and leak. I have had the camera mounted open on my tripod for weeks in a vain hope that the glue would dry up... has not happened yet!

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    From what I can remember in previous posts, furniture polish might do the trick, but it would be good if someone who has done that could confirm it.
    And yes, Rudy gives excellent customer service.

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    And this thread mentions using talc or baby powder.
    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum44/1...y-bellows.html

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    Hi, I am using CRC "Dry Slide" to solve all sorts of "sticky" problems, it's a PTFE spray which is a sort of Teflon and makes "stuff" slide and might de-sticky your bellows. May be you could get a bit scrap leather to try it on ?

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    ... furniture polish!?! well, probably worth a try. I would be a bit sceptic about anything on a spray - it would end up being everywhere, wouldn't it? But thanks, both of you.

    ... keep the suggestions coming!

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    I would try some Lexol leather cleaner followed by Lexol leather conditioner. I haven't actually tried the cleaner, but I have rejuvenated a couple of leather bellows with the conditioner. You can find Lexol products online and in auto parts stores. I also might try some 99% isopropyl alcohol to clean the leather, followed by the conditioner. What ever you try it's probably best to try a small area first.

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    The big question is whether this is endemic to the Poly Urethane or is a result of some other material which is part of the production process, which is deposited on the surface - or gradually seeps up to the surface?

    I would find a solvent ( acetone, perhaps) and do a check on perhaps 1 sq cm on a hidden place. Check "stickyness" before before and after cleaning the surface in this spot. If no change, switch to nylon, if "stickyness" is reduced - try a larger area and so on.

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    The big question is whether this is endemic to the Poly Urethane or is a result of some other material which is part of the production process, which is deposited on the surface - or gradually seeps up to the surface?
    - good point, Steven. I literally see thin threads of glue between the pleats when pulling out the front standard. I would personally conclude, that the glue used to laminate cloth and PU-leather somehow stays 'undry' (flexible/'wet'/liquid/whatever)... hmm, would this render the talc trick useless?

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    Talcum would work - it is the classic treatment for real rubber surfaces - but will leave an ugly finish.
    This is probably a contact glue, and these retain stickness for a long time. Acetone is the solvent used in the tubes of glue I have looked at.
    But "mechanical" removal of excess glue is usually recommended!

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    Re: Sticky bellows - how to solve it???

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    But "mechanical" removal of excess glue is usually recommended!
    ... but that does not seem to be an option in my case, right? I will try Talcum - it should not leave the that ugly a finish, I think, if all excess talc is removed carefully, that is

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