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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke79 View Post
    great help so far, thx to you guys,

    i have to say im really the one with two left hands when it comes to building stuff but perhaps i will have more practice now.
    sadly over here in germany we do not have someone like s.k. grimes to mount all the stuff

    the packard shutters looks interesting the problem i see is using them outside as someone mentioned, when i use my efke25 with red/orange 1,5 stop filters i still get arround 1/60 1/100 1/125 times outside , moreover i used the T setting on my speed often and was able to get times arround 0,5 sec and slower spot on, but i dont think i could manage that with faster times,

    i have looked at the sinar p2 great camera and easy to get here in germany, but it looks kind of clumsy and big and i would really like to shoot outside with the 8x10 ,
    a somehow transportation friendly camera would be nice.

    the kodak 2d size looks ok and i have a solid and sturdy tripod with an old 1920-30 large format head, built like a german tank looool

    i currently use my beloved efke 25 for my outside work with my speed graphic and would like to continue using it with 8x10 , even great for starters like myself in the cost department and pricewise

    i would like to try different fast old lenses in order to find 2-3 favorite lenses with special character and like jay said im pursuing the shallow depth of field :-)

    i need to do more research on the shutters....
    Something to keep in mind, is that the faster the lens, the bigger the lens. At 300mm, an f4.5 lens is getting big and heavy. You'll need a large lensboard and a large shutter to handle the faster long lenses.
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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke79 View Post
    the packard shutters looks interesting the problem i see is using them outside as someone mentioned, when i use my efke25 with red/orange 1,5 stop filters i still get arround 1/60 1/100 1/125 times outside , moreover i used the T setting on my speed often and was able to get times arround 0,5 sec and slower spot on, but i dont think i could manage that with faster times,

    i would like to try different fast old lenses in order to find 2-3 favorite lenses with special character and like jay said im pursuing the shallow depth of field :-)
    Luke, you could always consider a really dark neutral density filter that would allow you to shoot wide open at, say, 1/2 sec which you could time manually.

    Edit: Just read the thread more thoroughly. jp suggested this above.
    Last edited by Tony Karnezis; 17-Apr-2012 at 18:18. Reason: reinvented the wheel, giving credit

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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    Thank you both and Tony , yes that could be an Idea , i will try that hope not getting a decrease in Image quality

    I will post a WTB in the section perhaps someone selling a nice 8x10 Set

    Thank you guys for the help

    Slowly everythings clearing up ....

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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    one thing i would like to ask,

    what would be a good rail lenghts/ bellow legnhts concerning portraits (face /half body shots) , i have read the working lenght for lenses should be arround 250-350mm (8x10)

    I have seen some 8x10 currently offered

    what do you guys think of TACHIHARA cameras, a TOYO 810M or a Cambo Legend 8X10 for my purposes?

    I did not know that there is such a wide range of 8x10 cameras

    Im really impressed, but it is hard to select for a newcomer

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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    I like my 2-D. In the past, using odd-ball lenses was no problem as the lens boards can be made up from plywood with a table saw and a drill with a hole saw bit. Gaffer tape is a godsend and fix-all. 'Course this type of FIY doesn’t look professional. Really nice lens boards can be also be made at home with more expensive woods and more work . . .and they can look great.

    Currently, I have an adapter board on my 8x10 that takes Toyo/Linhoff boards for 4x5. I swap my 210mm and sometimes the 150mm onto the big camera. Works as long as I watch the corners.

    The Kodak 2-D cameras were used by the armed forces. Later on they used some 8x10 Deardorffs. There was a model made for the military that took 2-D lens boards with square corners.
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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    I think the 2-D is a good camera for this purpose. I use a Seneca Improved and I use several heavy lenses on mine. For portraits I have been using my 14" Darlot that comes in at just over 5 lbs. I shoot Efke-25 all of the time and x-ray film as well. I have recently started using a front mounted Packard shutter with this set up and it is a dream to use. For added insurance when I develop my negatives I do it by inspection under a green safe light and judge the density I need for carbon printing. My feeling is that Efke and/or x-ray film is great for portraits and everything else I shoot.

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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    On a lighter note, there is the Galli Shutter.<grin>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baa8Bwnn9Sk

    Or a Guillotine shutter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8odb2...33B39E85EA89FC

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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    A Packard shutter is a very versatile option. Use neutral density filters to lower the exposure times to a workable speed with the aperture wide open.

    6x6-inch is a common lensboard size, fitting the Kodak 2D and several other of their 8x10 cameras. It also fits the 8x10 Burke and James Commercial View, and their 5x7 Rembrandt Portrait Camera. 6x6 is big eough to handle a fairly large lens, up to 5" diameter at the flange.

    If you move up to a studio camera, most (not all) take a 9x9-inch lensboard, (the Century series, E. & H.T. Anthony, Burke & James...) Also, the Burke & James 11x14 Commercial View takes a 9x9.

    You can make both sizes of boards from stock pretty easily with just a small table saw. With a 6x6-to-9x9 adapter board, you could put any lens on any of these cameras.
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    Re: 8x10 for portraiture work and easy Lens Board Adaption

    Thanks to everyone for the valuable information, i think i will try the kodak 2d as my first 8x10 , i think i will first try the nd filter method to get around 0.5 sec and slower, maybe its suits my needs, if not i can go packard aswell, i m excited i want to start shooting right now but will have to wait till i have my full functional first time setup, thank you all again for helping me out , i will post news soon

    yes and the efke 25 , i love it, i hope its the same love with 8x10

    great forum!!!

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