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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Myxine View Post
    My first LF portrait. Feel free to criticize and/or advise
    Leaving LF aside. Note that apparent size of shoulder and arm is increased way too much. She is female, so you typical placement for portrait like that would be on about eye level or hair level, turning shoulders away from light. Anyway.. just me 2с

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Thanks Jay and Sergei!
    I appreciate your sincerity and constructive comments. I agree with things from both of you. I've never been a good portrait photographer (well a good photographer for a start), i can't put my friends at ease: i guess i'm too stiff myself when shooting ah ah. But Olga is definitely not relaxed enough and that's on me. I'm not very imaginative when it comes to poses, i guess i should start picking up a list of portrait i like and look for the poses.

    Concerning camera placement, i felt my mistake without understanding it clearly, so thank you. Now that i have a LF i feel that the back should be straight at all times. Sergei i'm correct understanding that i could have raised the camera to her hair level and bent it forward?

    The only thing i'm not sure to get is your comment about the flatness, and the missing skin tones. Are the tone flat (the picture looks contrasty to me)? Or at the opposite, is the portrait too contrasty: not enough skin tones variation? That could come from Olga's placement, too close from the window, or me overexposing a bit...

    Well, thank you guys. It gives me a lot to think to prepare for the next one, hoping that none of my future models are reading these pages, ah ah ah.

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    My first color 4x5 shoot. I like how it came out. Just wish shooting with color sheets would be cheaper.
    Any c&c would be nice.



    It's a picture for a little project I am working on with a few friends- something like a positive local brand labādienā (hello in Lithuanian). So we thought the school's classroom would be the perfect place, to show our first t-shirt with our logo.
    www.photoshoo.com

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    I think you have a fine portrait and would have been pleased if I had taken that photo. I agreed with the thin and flat comment earlier. There is something wrong there but I cant identify what it is, and would love to hear expert printers opinion on what it is. With the correct insight, another printing of that negative will fix it.

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    A portrait of Luther Gerlach during European collodion week-end.
    more portraits here:
    http://medusaphotographie.blogspot.f...portraits.html

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by luphot View Post
    A portrait of Luther Gerlach during European collodion week-end.
    more portraits here:
    http://medusaphotographie.blogspot.f...portraits.html

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    Very, very good!

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by luphot View Post
    A portrait of Luther Gerlach during European collodion week-end.
    more portraits here:
    http://medusaphotographie.blogspot.f...portraits.html

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    Very well done! I like this a lot!

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Arnaud,

    I apologize if my terminology is not very clear, but it's difficult to put my impressions into precise terms -- my failing, not yours. What I mean by thin and flat, is that the skin tones look compressed, without good separation between tones, as if the film was over exposed and under developed. the midtones are not well separated. It's easy to get so preoccupied with adequate exposure, that we expose in a way that makes everything visible, but robs the image of chiaroscuro. I opened the image up in Microsoft Picture Manager (all I have here at work), and adjusted the midtones down considerably (-37), brightness up a little (+3) to compensate for the midtones adjustment, and contrast up a touch (+7), and it looks better on my monitor, but the skin tones still don't look quite as rich as they might.

    Have a look at this:


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Decker View Post


    Billy

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    Dallmeyer 4D - Wide Open
    8x10 FP4+ in HC-110
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    Jay's portrait is similar to yours in some ways, but look specifically at the skin tones -- how well separated they are. Though there are no deep shadows, there is a sense of depth, volume, and balance that gives the image a richness. I chose this particular image because I think it's successful in every way, and what I aspire to in LF portraiture, and I hope it inspires you, too. I don't know how many LF portraits Jay made before he made this one, but I'll bet it's not his first. I think you're off to a great start, but this stuff is not easy, so please don't be discouraged by my comments, which are only intended to help and encourage you to make more LF portraits! Best of luck, and keep them coming!

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    Re: April 2012 Portraits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay DeFehr View Post
    Arnaud,

    I apologize if my terminology is not very clear, but it's difficult to put my impressions into precise terms -- my failing, not yours. What I mean by thin and flat, is that the skin tones look compressed, without good separation between tones, as if the film was over exposed and under developed. the midtones are not well separated. It's easy to get so preoccupied with adequate exposure, that we expose in a way that makes everything visible, but robs the image of chiaroscuro. I opened the image up in Microsoft Picture Manager (all I have here at work), and adjusted the midtones down considerably (-37), brightness up a little (+3) to compensate for the midtones adjustment, and contrast up a touch (+7), and it looks better on my monitor, but the skin tones still don't look quite as rich as they might.


    Jay's portrait is similar to yours in some ways, but look specifically at the skin tones -- how well separated they are. Though there are no deep shadows, there is a sense of depth, volume, and balance that gives the image a richness. I chose this particular image because I think it's successful in every way, and what I aspire to in LF portraiture, and I hope it inspires you, too. I don't know how many LF portraits Jay made before he made this one, but I'll bet it's not his first. I think you're off to a great start, but this stuff is not easy, so please don't be discouraged by my comments, which are only intended to help and encourage you to make more LF portraits! Best of luck, and keep them coming!
    Hey no worries buddy. Obviously there are feelings that you have looking at a picture that are not easy to translate. In positive and negative (pun intented). Concerning my picture, i forgot to mention that it's a scan (on a not so good scanner) and that i did very little tweak. I'm not sure the negative is much better though. Maybe it's a bad combo: exposure so so, development that could have been more thought if i had more knowledge, i don't know the FP4+ enough to use it at best... Well, en the end i guess it screams "novice" everywhere ah ah! Thanks a lot for the comments, it'll help me improve. Definitely i hope i can take portraits like Jay's one you posted as an example.

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