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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Petronio View Post
    ...requiring everyone to use their full legal name and location would help a lot.
    But Frank,

    There's certainly only one John NYC. NYC is a very unusual surname.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Petronio View Post
    If you want more ethical behavior, requiring everyone to use their full legal name and location would help a lot. It would kill a lot of trolls too.
    +1 with that except that any other detail should be released by pm only or by moderators. I do not really want my addess and phone number readely availabale for data mining.
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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    I agree that negativity for its own sake benefits nobody. I certainly do not condone nor advocate such posts.

    But we must distinguish between negativity and honesty. That's a tough call in many situations.

    IMO conveying accurate factual information, even if it appears negative, benefits everyone.

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    i agree leigh
    but the problem is that
    1 person's truth about a situation is another person's hallucination
    there is really no way to come to a "truth" and no priceless camera to cut in half

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Well, we only allow true truths, not half-truths, nor quarter-truths, nor...

    All subjective comments must be totally objective, without bias or prejudice against the guilty party.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Petronio View Post
    If you want more ethical behavior, requiring everyone to use their full legal name and location would help a lot. It would kill a lot of trolls too.
    I understand what you are saying, Frank but the reality is that the giving of a full legal name doesn't necessarily work.

    Just think of Jorge Gasteazoro (mmmm....where is he now I wonder?)...and of course Tim Atherton...and Ted Stoddard have all come in for criticism from buyers...rightly or wrongly.

    It's a real shame that things have got to this level, though.

    Pity.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Wow. I've never had a bad deal here or on APUG... I know personally, or once removed, most of the people I've done business with. I always give my full name, address, cell phone number etc once a deal is reached. Sad to hear about this going on...

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    I've had bad luck here. I've had two very bad buying experiences on this forum in the last month. One is involved in a paypal dispute and at least the other seller offered a refund. Both items were totally not as described. But since this has become such a touchy issue, I'm not telling any of you who the sellers were.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    I've added my opinion a few times now. But regardless of where we are with sales on this forum, I can tell you that I am at the point of just buying new from B&H or from from places like KEH with consistent, conservative grading and easy return policies. It's worth the premium for peace of mind. I'm sick of eBay and PayPal, tired of vetting individuals and being anxious whether they are honest or not. I'm done. I've finished selling the stuff I don't use, I got the good gear I want to use for years and years, and I don't need anything else other than consumables.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Petronio View Post
    If you want more ethical behavior, requiring everyone to use their full legal name and location would help a lot. It would kill a lot of trolls too.
    You'll recall that we tried to encourage that (real names) a few years ago, but met substantial resistance from many members.

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    Re: New FS rule seems to claim its first victim

    Apug allows thread starters in the classified section to disallow additions to their thread. I don't know technically if that's easy to do, but if it is, then it might be a good solution. The moderators should not have to get embroiled in buying and selling dramas!
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