Absolutely right! But weren't you the one vehemently advocating the current policy change a few posts up the thread?Originally Posted by Frank Petronio
Absolutely right! But weren't you the one vehemently advocating the current policy change a few posts up the thread?
I didn't see it as policy change at all, only a clarification of existing policy. They have been removing most of the negative comments on for sale posts for years.
Did we forget what we were arguing about, again!? lol
When I encounter an error or omission in an ad, I first ask myself why is it there?
If the seller knew of the problem it certainly would have already been corrected.
So either
1) the seller is ignorant of the situation, or
2) the seller is a liar.
I prefer to think that #1 is true, so I post an explanation, and expect the seller will appreciate my help.
Whether the effect of the comment is favorable or not to the sale is of no concern.
My only obligation is to pass on accurate information to the best of my ability.
One recent example involved a lens sale.
It was an extremely nice lens, but the seller neglected to mention that it was an APO.
I pointed that out, and the seller was grateful for the additional info.
It subsequently sold, and I like to think that my comment may have hastened that event.
But I would not have hesitated to post if the comment had a net negative impact on the offer.
For those who choose to censor negative comments in sales threads, please answer the following question:
Why should my policy as stated above differ for sales threads vs. threads in any other section of LFPF?
Aren't we all here to exchange information?
- Leigh
If you believe you can, or you believe you can't... you're right.
Who are the "you're" you refer to above? In case it isn't clear, I'm not "looking to implement solutions to problems that don't exist", that's exactly what the new rule does, and to which I am opposed.
The "would always" I inserted is meant to reveal the flaw in your argument, as that would be required for your solution to have merit. If there is no problem, or only very rarely one, no new rule is required.
Regarding your argument that "our little ideal utopia" allows for lower prices for buyers, that might be true, or it could allow for higher profit margins for sellers. I've seen both examples here.
The bottom line is that the new rule protects sellers at the expense of buyers, and no one has justified that fact. It is a needless intrusion into a self regulating market, as you seem to both agree with, and argue against.
Not to change the topic, but I don't know why some people think this forum is some sort of buyers' utopia. I have made purchases where the item was exactly as described here and ones where the seller here totally overrated it's condition... Hey, JUST like eBay.
Sorry; I'm calling bullshit on this.
"..obligation.."?
You are not obligated in any way to pass anything on. You choose to chime in.
In my opinion, this sort of presumptuous behaviour is being tolerated far more here than in the real world. If you were in a local store and you butted in with your "opinion", not only would you be told to pull your head in, you would probably be asked to leave the store.
Lachlan.
You miss 100% of the shots you never take. -- Wayne Gretzky
Well, that's your opinion, and you have a right to state it.
Apparently you feel I have no right to state mine.
Now go wipe the brown stuff off your face.
- Leigh
If you believe you can, or you believe you can't... you're right.
Master of the retort, aren't you?
Pity you didn't spend any time explaining your obligation. Which, by the way, fitted my expectations.
Lachlan.
You miss 100% of the shots you never take. -- Wayne Gretzky
The new rules say nothing against asking sellers polite questions for clarification pertaining to make, model or condition...questions any buyer can/should ask. All it asks is that we not be rude about it.
Apparently Leigh's not alone.
And apparently no social skills were acquired in the one hour and one minute since Leigh pointed out that he lacks them.
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