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    DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    The head of our European research branch has requested a thread to post scans concerning dslr scanning, which includes comparisons to other methods, and so here it is.
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    When I considered scanning film with a camera a few thoughts came to mind.

    a) When scanning with a dSLR vs a dedicated scanner you have to take into account lens distortions. That isn't to say that a scanner doesn't have lens distortions as well, but it's a much more controlled environment. This is something that can be corrected for, but would be one more step that may be missed or more likely done improperly.
    b) Size limitation. Most dSLRs are under 20mp. But I can scan 4x5 film at far more pixels than the current crop of typical dSLRs can afford.
    c) Dust removal. Even with diligent dust control measures you'll still find dust. Having a dedicated scanner with proper dust removal is, in my opinion, worth the extra cost and time it takes to scan.
    d) Size. Even a medium or large sized scanner will likely take up less room than a copy stand type setup realistically.

    On the other hand...
    1) Time. It takes much longer to use a flatbed or dedicated film scanner to scan even 35mm film than it would to just *click*. Is time worth more than the reasons stated above?

    These are just my opinions. Sorry, I don't have any examples of one vs the other.

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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    This is not the proper thread for this sort of discussion.
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    Huh?

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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    This thread is for showing scans.
    Such as:


    Versus this:



    The first image is from a Cezanne scan. The second is from my dslr scanner.

    The original thread is the place for general discussion of the project. It is: http://www.largeformatphotography.in...er-with-a-DSLR
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    Peter, what were the scan settings for the Cezanne? The DSLR scan is excellent. Looks very promising!
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    Hi Peter,

    4000 spi.

    To me, it looks like the AN holder held the Cezanne back.
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    I think you are right. To my eye its most apparent in the rounded bits, but it shows everywhere (ugh, back to testing). I wonder if the differences are visible in print (and at what size).

    A DSLR scanner that reaches 4000 spi would be fantastic. Have you "scanned" an entire 4x5? I'm wondering what the time investment per image is.
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    I used the Cezanne clam shell holder for the dslr at first. A close-up view of the grain showed smearing, and so I ditched the holder and taped the negative emulsion up to the thick glass plate. That's what gave the scan above. The Cezanne scan shows the same smearing. Soon I'll scan a negative on the Cezanne without going through a sheet of AN acrylic. It should perform better.

    Note that these prints would be huge, on the order of 50" prints from a 6x7 negative. With a computer and the ease of looking at a 100% pixel view, it's so easy to become obsessed about very minor things.

    I haven't scanned an entire 4x5. So far I"ve stuck to 6x7cm negatives, just to make things easier. Joseph did a 4x5" negative, if I remember rightly. Right now I'm concentrating on automation. The team made some good progress today. We've narrowed down stepper motors, drivers and software candidates.
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    Re: DSLR Scanner: Scans and Comparisons

    I sure appreciate your efforts Peter.
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