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Thread: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

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    Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    http://www.minyanville.com/businessm.../2012/id/38779

    Is LF under their commercial or consumer group?

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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    All film is now under the commercial group.
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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juergen Sattler View Post
    All film is now under the commercial group.
    How do you know that? That is not what the article says:

    1. Commercial: will include Kodak's Graphics Communications Group (CPG), and two product lines from the Film, Photofinishing and Entertainment Group (FPEG) -- entertainment imaging and commercial film.

    2. Consumer: includes the Consumer Digital Imaging Group (CDG), plus three lines from FPEG, those being paper & output systems, event imaging solutions, and consumer film and intellectual property.

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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    Whichever one you think it is, it's probably the other one.


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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    They'll do something goofy like make 35mm consumer and larger film commercial....

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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    Commercial vs Consumer is an interesting way to split a business. Other industries do similar... and then there is a lot of overlap where common technologies are used. I've never understood corporate orgainizations and re-organizations... but generally believe based on experience that it usually has to do with empire building/retention and punishment of poor/unloved performers than any kind of a rationale business plan.

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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    Quote Originally Posted by John NYC View Post
    How do you know that? That is not what the article says:

    1. Commercial: will include Kodak's Graphics Communications Group (CPG), and two product lines from the Film, Photofinishing and Entertainment Group (FPEG) -- entertainment imaging and commercial film.

    2. Consumer: includes the Consumer Digital Imaging Group (CDG), plus three lines from FPEG, those being paper & output systems, event imaging solutions, and consumer film and intellectual property.
    There was an ABC news article on the web this morning that said that ALL film was now under the commercial unit. Since then there seems to be more information AND more confusion. The ABC article's headline also sounded like Kodak had actually abandoned film altogether. I guess we'll have to wait a little longer to find out what is really going on.
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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juergen Sattler View Post
    All film is now under the commercial group.
    Maybe you know something that isn't in the article but just reading the article I'd have guessed that the kind of film photographers use (e.g. 35mm, medium format, and sheet film) was in the consumer group and that "commercial" film meant stuff like xray film. But that would just have been a guess, it doesn't seem very clear from the article. Frank probably has the best take on it, i.e. they'll do something that makes no sense to anyone outside of Kodak.
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    I always thought that the professional films was in the commercial division. Why not dial the main number and ask the division?

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    Re: Kodak now has two business lines - which one is LF in?

    As the Romans said re. reorganizations in 210bc:


    "We trained hard....but every time we formed up teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn that we meet any new situation by reorganizing. And a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization."
    Petronius Arbiter, 210 bc

    This comforted me thru the years...
    Last edited by SW Rick; 11-Jan-2012 at 09:27. Reason: typo

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