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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    Steven, this is a beauty! Tell the wife that buying cameras is better than chasing and spending money on other women! I love the metal work and the front rise is a nice design. I'm glad I'm done building cameras?????? Did I just say that??!! At least for now. I love the bonus too! Wish I could find a bonus like that!

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    Herbst & Firl have a history that is similar to that of Century in the USA.
    Made a dramatic entry to the market with top quality Studio and other Cameras.
    They (H&F) were quickly taken over by Ernemann who continued to make the same range of camera (like Kodak did with Century) using the trademark "Globus".
    The only identifying mark on the camera is a "puck" holding a camera astride a Globe! A rather odd trademark which I assume must be a "Globus" badge!
    So perhaps it was under Ernemann's ownership as there is no H & F?

    I have found the later Globus schutzmarke. It is the third one down on the left-hand side. It includes both company names - but the odd drawing has been given up!

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    I happened to stumble onto one very much like it. It is missing the base and has some slightly different hardware. I have had hard time figuring out who made it, but yours is very much like it. I was going to try and build a base for it and use it, but I picked up a century with stand so this is going to be sold off pretty cheap.

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    It's certainly related to the Globus.
    I have looked through my illustrations - which are not as exhaustive as those in the book I posted yesterday - but can't find it.
    The nearest base design I can find is posted below.
    Most of these de luxe Studio cameras were made around Dresden (mostly in Görlitz).
    Known makers were:
    Ernst Herbst & Firl (became the top model in Ernemann). They are branded on the front right side top.
    Curt Bentzin. They made the technological leap into modern camera design later. Many have the name on the lens board retaining brass strip.
    Kamerawerk Paul Quill.

    There were many other anon. makers. The adverts say " Made to order - available within a week"

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    Its amazing how some of these were built and the engineering that went into them. If I had the time, space and tools to rebuild this one it would be cool, but I do not. So I think its best to get it in the hands of someone that can do it up right.

    The coolest part is the inset lens board and the packard shutter thats on it. Just cool!

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    I have received an interesting note from one of the active people behind the Camera and Optics Museum in Görlitz (near Dresden). This is housed in one of the old stores of Herbst & Firl (Ernemann) there.

    There is no doubt but that the trademark is that of Mlitz & Kügler - another specialist camera maker between 1890 and 1920. He sent me a couple of pages of company history. If anyone else has a question about a Görlitz product, I'm sure they would as helpful to you as they were to me!

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    Well this Kügler Studio Camera was not the only one sold in Scandinavia!
    I have just bought another one - but this is destined for someone in Southern Sweden.
    This one has lost it's stand - BUT has a lot of original plate holders (13x18 and 18x24) and a sliding back.

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    ok - this looks a lot like one of mine! I think mine is called "Stella" by gorlitzer...

    I'll check tomorrow. the cassettes aer awesome! With internal rolling blinds (?).. fantastic craftmanship.

    Mine also has an old Hermann Petzval fitted on it.

    EDIT:
    Maybe I have two ?... I - or the school was given one unnamed camera, and that looks also like yours..

    pics tomorrow.

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    "I or the School was given...."
    Whoops, Emil!
    You had better check your paperwork - I advise that you get the donor to sign a "deed of gift" to _______.

    I am sure this is a Kugler Studio Camera too - unless the smaller makers in Görlitz had someone who was making standard brassware for them.
    I fortunately have a appropriate stand I can pass on the glad buyer.
    The main interest here was the type and number of near original backs (alternative process?).

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    Re: A Studio Camera which isn't a Century, Deardorff or an Ansco!

    hehe..

    Actually the camera was given/sold to the school (the lens was given to me), but as the school has yet to honour the promise of "paying" (which is a week short course run by me), the camera belongs to me...

    I have a couple of pics of that camera. I said it was unnamed, but I actually see a space, where the little round plaque with the mane of the camera used to be... fallen of long time ago..

    the metal ornaments looks a lot like yours.

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