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    Re: New Posts

    Brian's and Rick's explanations are correct.

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    Re: New Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Barker View Post
    Brian's and Rick's explanations are correct.
    The explanations are correct...

    ... but the implementation is not.

    This omission is based on the brain-dead assumption that a viewer will never want to re-visit a thread until another post has been added.

    There are innumerable reasons why someone might want to revisit, such as
    1) Did not read the entire thread and want to finish.
    2) Did not understand a comment and left the thread to research the subject.
    3) Decided to post a reply.
    4) Want to edit a recent reply.

    I could go on, but you get the idea.

    If you show those threads in the New Posts list, but in normal font rather than boldface, it would completely eliminate the problem.

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    Re: New Posts

    I'm glad I read your post in its entirety before typing. For a split second I thought you were calling Rick and me 'brain-dead". Ha ha ha ha!

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    Re: New Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    For a split second I thought you were calling Rick and me 'brain-dead".
    No, Brian. Definitely not.

    My comments were directed at the individual who made the decision regarding the bbs setup.

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    Re: New Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by rdenney View Post
    Rick "whose fresh posts do not show up in New Posts, either, until someone responds to them" Denney
    Might this explain why counts are not always accurate, or is this a separate issue? (I have noticed that after some posts the count does not increase by one.)

    Barry "who is not as daft as you might think" Kirsten.

    (Heh heh, my one opportunity to post in Denney style!

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    Re: New Posts

    Hi Barry,

    Posts in the For Sale and Lounge fora do not increase your post count.

    There might be others that I'm not aware of.

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    Re: New Posts

    There are always multiple perspectives on how a feature works. I would assume that vBulletin's definition of "new" (if you wrote it or have seen it, it's no longer new) is based on user/licensee input over the years.

    If one wants to go back to a (partially) read thread, there is always the real forum index, the link to which is in the upper-left corner of the display.

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    Re: New Posts

    Hi Ralph,

    My point is that the behavior of New Posts is user-configurable, not hard-cided AFAIK.

    I'm moderator of a forum that also uses vBulletin, and our New Posts functions as I described above, with visited threads in normal font and unvisited ones in boldface. That board currently runs v.3.8.7, but the behavior is unchanged over the last six years.

    Other vBulletin boards that I visit work the same.

    You can use Unified View to find visited threads, but it excludes the For Sale forum. I can click on Unified View, and if the thread I'm seeking doesn't show up, I can then check the For Sale section, but why should I have to go through those gyrations?

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    Re: New Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    I'm glad I read your post in its entirety before typing. For a split second I thought you were calling Rick and me 'brain-dead". Ha ha ha ha!
    Heh. We're too busy calling each other brain dead.

    But I'm not sure it's a problem. When I make a post, the next screen I see is my post freshly attached to the end of that thread. I also back page to finish reading the thread if necessary.

    And if there are pages of posts in that thread that I have not yet read, or if there were posts added while I was writing my post, it will still appear in the New Posts list. That actually confused me at first.

    Rick "not really knowing how the forum software uses cookies to know what has been read" Denney

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    Re: New Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Hi Ralph,

    My point is that the behavior of New Posts is user-configurable, not hard-cided AFAIK.

    I'm moderator of a forum that also uses vBulletin, and our New Posts functions as I described above, with visited threads in normal font and unvisited ones in boldface. That board currently runs v.3.8.7, but the behavior is unchanged over the last six years.

    Other vBulletin boards that I visit work the same.

    You can use Unified View to find visited threads, but it excludes the For Sale forum. I can click on Unified View, and if the thread I'm seeking doesn't show up, I can then check the For Sale section, but why should I have to go through those gyrations?

    - Leigh
    We changed the selection criteria of Unified View a few years ago based on member input, excluding FS/WTB and the Lounge. Unified uses the "getdaily" vB function, while the New Posts link uses the "getnew" function with no parameters. The "Community" sub-forums are also blocked from search-engine spider access.

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