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    Re: Picker on exposure

    The term "expose to the right" referring to the histogram is a new term for me as I'm not someone who has spent any time thinking about digital exposure techniques.

    But my 1975 copy of "Photographic Sensitometry" by Zakia and Todd does. They spend a lot of time illustrating the concept - even though they don't call it ETTR. They have a scene showing a properly exposed negative printed to give the "best" print. They also show "best" prints made from negatives that are 2, 4, and 6 stops under & over exposed. Their premise supported by the prints is that a negative 6 stops overexposed is still capable of making an "excellent" (their descriptive terms, not mine), while a negative underexposed by two stops is incapable of an "excellent" print. While the prints in the book certainly support their thesis, I've always felt it was an odd photograph to use - but the scene was chosen in the thought process of scientists/engineers rather than artists.

    The Zakia & Todd book is wonderful in explaining exposure and resulting negatives from an engineering point of view. It certainly is not weighed down by any subjective artistic mumbo jumbo.

    SEI exposure meters were set up to provide exposure information on values placed on Zone II to insure that there always was enough exposure to get the low values.

    So to sum up. My approach has always been that underexposure is death, and overexposure is the preferable MISTAKE. And I believe Picker's message was basically the same, but he wanted to make exposures that were the bare minimum for the scene.

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    Re: Picker on exposure

    Fred would tell students at the workshops its better to over expose film then under.

    Yes I read the "Photographic Sensitometry" and did some of the test to prove to may self they were right and what better to do on a rainy day. Do the test once and know for sure what works and what does not.

    Under exposed negatives get filed from the fixer into the round file I never try to make a print from then.
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    Re: Picker on exposure

    One little point about under exposed or under developed negs.
    Most here would throw out those negatives as not being worthy.

    But in my world there is a group of photographers who love very thin negatives and then having them printed on Grade 4 or 5.
    Dead Black Blacks and smokin Highlight detail to die for.

    This is a classic approach that many photographerss achieve for, very dramatic printmaking to say the least.

    I never believed in the perfect negative, and I still don't.



    Quote Originally Posted by RichardRitter View Post
    Fred would tell students at the workshops its better to over expose film then under.

    Yes I read the "Photographic Sensitometry" and did some of the test to prove to may self they were right and what better to do on a rainy day. Do the test once and know for sure what works and what does not.

    Under exposed negatives get filed from the fixer into the round file I never try to make a print from then.

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    Re: Picker on exposure

    I don't know if anyone noted it yet, but Picker liked to print on his own Brilliant Bromide paper, which dropped the low values like a brick, more in fact than any other paper I have personally used. This would explain why he espoused pushing shadow detail clear up to Zone III, especially with films having a significant toe
    like Tri-X.

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