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    Bill,

    I'm not sure what your application is for a helical. Are you just looking for s omething that moves a lens backwards and forwards to focus it on a ground glass. If that's the case, things like depth of field and distance scales aren't requ ired. Or, are you looking to make a point-n-shoot camera that you will focus ba sed on guestimated distance (like the Linhof 6x17). In this case you will need a helical with the proper distance and depth of field scales to match your lens focal length, as well as the proper mechanical size to match the shutter. You w ill also need to calibrate the "zero" distance (infinity focus) from the film pl ane.

    On the other hand, if you will have a gound glass to check focus, any helical of the proper mechanical size will do. How close you can focus will depend on the fore/aft travel of the helical. By all means, if you can afford one of the nic e helicals from Schneider or Rodenstock get one. They are well made and worth t he price (check places like Robert White and Badger Graphics for the most reason able prices - you should be able to get one in the $200 range). If this is a lo w budget "experiment", there are cheaper (although less elegant) solutions. In addition to the Mamiya helicals, you might want to watch eBay and the used deale rs for a Pentax helical extension tube. This may require a little hacking and w ill only work with lenses with a small rear diameter, but you might be able to f ind one for less than $100. Also, the guy who makes the Granview makes helicals to adapt a variety of lenses to his cameras. I have no idea how much they cost , but you might check his web site (I think it's www.granview.com).

    Good luck, Kerry

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    Helical Focussing Mounts In Lenses

    Kerry, you are on the right track. My goal was to use helical mounts in 80mm lenses and focus on a gg, so DOF and scales are not the least bit important to me. So I think you pretty much answered my question... i.e. If I find a helical mount that will mechanicaly fit into the lens, then as long as I gg focus, it should work perfect. Unless I am missing something here?

    Bob, thanks for the input, and sorry I complicated things, this is what happens when one is trying to learn something in an area they have no experience in. Once I confirm the camera design, I will take you up on your offer for brochures.

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    " Unless I am missing something here? "

    The most obvious thing.

    Infinity focus.

    If it is designed for a lens longer then 80mm it won't focus to infinty.

    If it is designed for a lens shorter then 80mm extension must be added to reach infinity.

    Unless you are not interested in infinity focus.

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    BTW,

    Wayne at Casey's Camera on Tropicana can easily help you as he is a large format expert and uses large format all the all the time and can also give you instructions on helicoid mounts as well as retail pricing (I gave MSRP not retail).

    He is an excellent resource with large format in stock.

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    Bob, totally agreed, I should have wrote, any helical mount designed for the same fl lens I plan to use, that would physicaly fit my proposed lens, would work perfectly. I assume this is accurate now...

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    The Rodenstock Helical Focus Mounts are only available for 0 shutters. They are not available for 1 shutters.

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    So Bob (or anybody), how do you check for infinity focus? I will soon receive a second hand sironar-N 150mm and I will use a schneider focus mount for apo symmar 150mm I know it is to do with the flange focal distance for starters......

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    Is it or isn't at focus ay infinity when fully compressed?

    Don't be sur[rised if it isn't. The Rodenstock lens may have a different flange focal length and/or a different effective focal length. If those don't match the mount won;t focus properly.

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    I'm almost certain that the flange focal length will be different. The apo symmar is 144.2 the sironar-N is ? When checking focus at infinity, How do you find whether it is in focus? Try focusing on the moon at night? Or something really far?

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    142mm.

    You simplt focus on something a few hundred feet away to be safe. It sounds like you will need shims to make it work.

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