Requirements and standards for HABS/HAER photography

[pchaplo]

Kirk, I shoot 4x5. My cooler of film holders is full for one project! I think Schaf shoots some 5x7.

Schaf, I like your "Context," "Oblique," "Orthogonal," and "Vertical" descriptors. Wondering: when you describe a shot as "Vertical" in Index, do you mean 'looking somewhat upward?'

[jnantz]

Paul,

I forgot to mention that NPS will probably require the keymap to be from USGS. It's a relatively new requirement but they don't accept Google or Bing base maps for copyright reasons. You can sign up and download high-resolution orthoimagery from the USGS website. https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov

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and yes I sometimes scan my field notes and submit them as additional materials.

i never knew they required a usgs map
i have always drawn a sketch map ( ruler lead &c )
and put directional arrows
and keyed it to the index. never had issues.
good to know what's required these days.

[schafphoto]

Paul, vertical just means the film back is vertical versus horizontal position, not really an important thing to note.

The USGS map is a new thing. Mary, the new collections manager at HDP in Washington, made me do some keymaps over.
I tried to convince her that Google Maps was basically public domain if you read their terms of service, but she insisted on USGS maps.
The USGS maps are very good, high resolution Tiff files, so I can't complain about that. But on more than one occasion the base aerial map in
USGS turned out to be the same as the base aerial map on Google as well. I still use either Google or Bing for keycaps on state surveys because
I am able to compare two different aerials and pick the best one. If you have a GIS department that can produce a custom map, even better.

[pchaplo]

Schaf,

Of course - vertical lol. I need some sleep I replied to your other thread about the rag paper/no OBA requirement- for now, are they still accepting Epson 5-Star Matte?

[schafphoto]

Yes, I'm still submitting 5-star matte and I believe Jarob the NPS HHH photographer is using 5-star matte as well. Not truly archival, but they will be stored in a dark box so probably sufficiently archival in that situation.
-Schaf

[pchaplo]

Thanks, that paper is readily available and more likely to feed well than the 300gsm stuff. Is this the paper? https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Premium.../dp/B00004Z613

[pchaplo]

Schaf, I am looking through some old HABS projects on the LOC site. Here is a pic from the 1930's. Take a look at the scale reference on the stairs. Do you ever use a smaller scale for interiors of say a house -- perhaps a stick that does not obscure the detail? Tell me more.


Gotta love it "TX-3"!

A bit of background. I first got a "modern" survey rod and found the markings are quite small, then, after much searching, I found one like yours as I seem to do large structures and the bold marking can be seem at greater distance even in the neg. Wonder if I could get or make a 2 or 3 ft version that I could even attach to a structure?

[pchaplo]

Schaf, thanks. I will use 5-star matte, then later try Epson Hot Press Natural Rag. Are you putting the 8.5 x 11” inkjet prints into archival plastic sleeves such PrintFilr?

Yes, I'm still submitting 5-star matte and I believe Jarob the NPS HHH photographer is using 5-star matte as well. Not truly archival, but they will be stored in a dark box so probably sufficiently archival in that situation.
-Schaf

[jnantz]

schaf
none of the federal jobs i have done and only 1 state level job i have done
required a surveyors pole. is this something new that is asked for to give a reference?
( i've never seen the pole mentioned in the guidelines )
the only job that i did that needed a pole was an archaeological one where i recorded 2 18th century quarries
and the artifacts found and the walls ( it was drained ). the pole was used only as i shot across from
one side of the 300+foot pit to the other and a ruler of some sort was used for the artifacts ( which we left in place ).
thanks !
john

[pchaplo]

The scale stick is suggested in the Photography Guidelines, updated June 2015 (pg.3) under "Views Required." It depends on the project specs and client, level of documentation, and objectives. I now use one in every project, even if "HABS/HAER-like."