Which movements will fix this?

[atlcruiser]

Hi All,
just smack me if I ask too many questions

I took yet another frame of the famous test shed. I had a very small ft tilt and maybe a teeny tiny left swing. The rear standard was tilted forward a bit, then backward yet I never could quite the shed to not lean. The ft tilt was very little and I dont think that explains the "leaning tower of shed" i have going on here.


810 deardorff
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foma in rodinal 1:50 8 min

What movements would make this better?

thanks!


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[Bill_1856]

Suggestion: Put a grid over your ground glass so you can see what you're doing instead of shooting films.
Other suggestion: Buy and use a carpenter's level.
One more: What you need here is rise/fall, not tilt/swing.

[Thom Bennett]

Get the rear standard parallel to the shed (i.e. level the rear standard). Level the front standard as well. This image does not need any tilt or any swing. Depth of field is what you need in this case: Focus on the farthest point of the shed you want in focus. Make note of where your standard is. Focus on the closest point of the shed you want in focus. Make note of where the standard now is. Refocus halfway between these two points and begin stopping the lens down. At the appropriate aperture both far and near will come into focus at the same time. Hope this explanation helps.

[atlcruiser]

Suggestion: Put a grid over your ground glass so you can see what you're doing instead of shooting films.
Other suggestion: Buy and use a carpenter's level.
One more: What you need here is rise/fall, not tilt/swing.

thanks for the info

the GG has a grid...faint in places but a grid. I do need a new one

The camera was level...I have and use the carpenters level

I wnated a deep sharp foreground that is why I tilted just a bit

[atlcruiser]

Get the rear standard parallel to the shed (i.e. level the rear standard). Level the front standard as well. This image does not need any tilt or any swing. Depth of field is what you need in this case: Focus on the farthest point of the shed you want in focus. Make note of where your standard is. Focus on the closest point of the shed you want in focus. Make note of where the standard now is. Refocus halfway between these two points and begin stopping the lens down. At the appropriate aperture both far and near will come into focus at the same time. Hope this explanation helps.

thank you

I do know that technique and use it often. I wanted the foreground sharp..could I do it the way you described?

I think I might just want to tilt/swing just cuz I can

[Ari]

I must uber-emphasize what Bill said; get a good bubble level.
Keep all movements zeroed until absolutely necessary.
I don't trust the grid on the GG, as the GG could be slightly out of line with the camera; I trust the level.

[Gem Singer]

Tilting the back changes the perspective.

Tilting the front would have brought the grass into focus (what you were trying to accomplish) without changing the perspective..

[jeroldharter]

I think that a little front rise would eliminate the unnecessary, out of focus grass in the foreground and make a more balanced composition. Then stop down like others have said. If you tilt, you will have issues with the vertical shed which is right in the middle of the image. If you really stop down, you might be able to compensate for that.

[Jack Dahlgren]

thanks for the info

the GG has a grid...faint in places but a grid. I do need a new one

The camera was level...I have and use the carpenters level

I wnated a deep sharp foreground that is why I tilted just a bit

The point about the level is not that the camera is level, but that the back is vertical.

For an image to show up with no convergence the film plane needs to be parallel to the subject plane.

[Frank Petronio]

Stop tilting the damn thing.