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    Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    Hi guys,

    I realized from looking at some pictures from famous photographers, that there's a certain color look - besides the fact that it isn't digital - to older LF photographs.

    This LF color photograph from 1992 from Thomas Struth is an example of that look. Is it just me seeing things that aren't there?

    In the video series "contacts", there's a video still frame where it says he used 4x5 Agfa Optima 100 in his paradise series, but I have no idea about this film.

    If somebody has a clue what I'm talking about, i'd be grateful for some comments!

    Kind regards

    Paul

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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    According to this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ographic_films

    it's been discontinued.
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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    Agfa color films from the 70s and 80s had a brownish olive look that may be what you're seeing here. I liked that look, but its long gone now-a-days.

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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    There's not much to it—just LF printed large, photochemically. The "look" has more to do with contrast than anything. Back in the 80s and early 90s, Cibachrome and high contrast were in vogue, so some negatives and RA4 papers had steeper curves. It would be easy to get the same look today—for wet prints, shoot Ektar, for digital output, shoot anything and apply some subtle curves.

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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Ambrose View Post
    Agfa color films from the 70s and 80s had a brownish olive look that may be what you're seeing here. I liked that look, but its long gone now-a-days.
    Maybe, but Agfa from the late 90s and in particular Optima 100, did not. I really liked Optima 100 in 4x5, and in fact have some in my freezer having given up LF and film for a decade before I'd used it all up.

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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    Analog to digital conversion is suspect at best. Color is difficult to match to the original.
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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    If there is an "80s-90s look" it's Kodachrome. I don't know how that relates to LF but that's what I think.
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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    My parents' color photographs as well as mine from the late 1970s definitely have a "certain look" - they've faded badly and many have acquired a magenta patina.
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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    Quote Originally Posted by venchka View Post
    Analog to digital conversion is suspect at best. Color is difficult to match to the original.
    That was what I was thinking. Plus with this photo if the grey around the edge is actually the white of the scanner pad or piece of paper etc then it has maybe not been adjusted after scanning much resulting in the high contrast. Who knows, but it looks very high contrast.

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    Re: Which film is this? Does old there exist a 80's, 90's film look?

    I've seen Struth's prints before and they do look similar to this scan, at least on my monitor. The contrast may be a bit high here but I think it's a valid question.

    I think the look of his prints come largely from the large format negative as well as the specific film. But part of it is also a slight fading/yellowing that has occurred. I saw a few of his prints recently and they were printed with a white margin, which was decidedly not white anymore. The prints were beautiful and he's one of my favorite photographers, but the prints had definitely changed over time. It could be due to the C-print itself or the diasec face mounting.

    I have C-prints from a reputable lab that have yellowed slightly since the late 90s.

    If you wanted to reproduce the look today, I'd suggest shooting 4x5 or 8x10 color neg film and scanning on a good drum scanner. Prints could be digital C prints or inkjet, but the key would be to add a bit of a curve to block up the shadows just a bit.

    I think there's a tendency now with digital photography and film scanning to use all of the available dynamic range just because we can. With analog printing we always had to make some choices about what tonal information to keep and what to let go.

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