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    Anti Newton Glass

    Is it possible to make your own piece of Anti Newton glass? I've heard it's as simple as making ground glass, but I wasn't sure if there's a specific process to it. If it's not possible, where's the best place to purchase it?

    Secondly on a Epson 4990 do I need to use a piece of 1mm clear glass underneath the negatives and then AN glass sandwiched on top? I'm a little fuzzy on the process.

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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    Anti-Newton glass can be purchased at: www.fpointinc.com

    Click on Anti-Newton Ring Glass, scroll down, and read the recommendations and instructions for use.

    For 120 and 4x5 negatives, the 4990's film holders can be used with no Anti-Newton glass.

    For 5x7 and 8x10 negatives, use one piece of 2mm AN glass to hold the negative flat on the scanner glass. Emulsion side down.

    Etched side of the AN glass against the smooth shiny base side of the film.

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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    Your time is more valuable making photos. Buy an anti-Newton Ring glass.
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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    For some application, anti-glare picture framing glass (also called "glazing") can be used. It's inexpensive, and it's probably available locally. This glass has a light texture on one side. There is also one textured on both sides, which you don't want to get. The texture on the anti-glare glass is a little coarser than on AN glass, and that texture may show up in a scan. The only way to tell is to test it.
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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    I don't think you can make it as easily as a ground glass. ANR glass has to be really fine grained or else it would show up in the scan right?

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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    Anti Newton glass goes between the scanner light and the negative not between the scanner sensor and the negative.

    It's like the diffusion glass in an enlarger. Does not show up in the scan.

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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    Quote Originally Posted by Gem Singer View Post
    Anti Newton glass goes between the scanner light and the negative not between the scanner sensor and the negative.
    Some current films, for example, have very shiny emulsion sides as well as base sides. As a result, Newton's Rings can occur between the emulsion and a piece of glass. To avoid this, some people, such as (I believe) Howard Bond, use AN glass above and bellow the negative in their enlargers. Moreover on my Screen Cezanne scanner, the clam-shell holders have a very fine AN texture on both the top and bottom pieces of acrylic. Convinced that this would negatively impact sharpness, I built a carrier using clear optical glass. I wet-mounted the film to the optical glass and compared scans with ones made with the clam-shell holders. Even at 6000 dpi I couldn't see any difference in file detail. But Gem is right: The standard practice is to have the AN glass between the film base and the light source.
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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    My Minolta Scan Multi's film holder does use ANR glass on both sides of the holder as well. It's a very sharp scanner for it's age- it's usually a teeny bit sharper than the Epson 4990.

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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    If you don't know if a piece of glass is anti-Newton or not, try putting a fig newton on it. If it resists, its anti-Newton
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    Re: Anti Newton Glass

    How necessary is ANR glass for sheet film?

    I use it with a Betterscan 6x17cm carrier, where I helps to flatten out the roll film, but don't with 4x5.

    As I'm thinking about making a 7x17" carrier for my V700, will ANR glass be of any use?

    I was thinking that taping the neg to the glass might help to prevent sagging in the middle of the film, but cannot work out how to accurately do this so that the film is parallel to the carrier's edge.
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