Arca-Swiss 6x9 cost?

**jmooney** · 19-Dec-2010, 05:46

Originally Posted by Frank Bunnik

Are you sure you want a 6x9 camera? I ask this because I used a few (Horseman VHR and Silvestri SLV) and what annoyed me with both cameras was that you have to remove the groundglass (and any type of viewfinder) to mount a rollfilm back. Of course I knew you had to do this before I bought these cameras but only after some use I found out how much this annoyed me.

The Shen-Hao actually has a GG that swings out to put the holder on so I don't see this as a problem. To me it'll be no different that having to monkey with sheet holders and darkslides and such. The other reason is a I want a small a camera as possible. I know that they are only marginally smaller than 4x5 but every bit counts. Simple and small are he guiding principles here.

Jim

**Frank Petronio** · 19-Dec-2010, 06:22

I always read you could slide some of the roll holders under the GG but when I saw them in person it seemed like you had a lot of opportunity to scratch the GG. Of course removing the GG can lead to scratches and worse for the GG over time too.

But I could be wrong.... first time for everything you know.

**jmooney** · 19-Dec-2010, 06:29

Originally Posted by Frank Petronio

I always read you could slide some of the roll holders under the GG but when I saw them in person it seemed like you had a lot of opportunity to scratch the GG. Of course removing the GG can lead to scratches and worse for the GG over time too.

But I could be wrong.... first time for everything you know.

That's why I like this setup:

It just swings out of the way so no grinding a holder under it and no dropping it, which is a concern for me and my frigged up RA hands. I was emptying the dishwasher the other day and a glass slipped and before the juggling act was over I broke 4 glasses.....the last thing I want to do is have to take off and put back a ground glass standing next to a steam or on a bunch of rocks....

**Dan Fromm** · 19-Dec-2010, 08:13

Originally Posted by Frank Petronio

I always read you could slide some of the roll holders under the GG but when I saw them in person it seemed like you had a lot of opportunity to scratch the GG. Of course removing the GG can lead to scratches and worse for the GG over time too.

But I could be wrong.... first time for everything you know.

Frank, I can't address the Linhof Super Rollex, but I use 2x3 Adapt-A-Roll 620s with my 2x3 Graphics and haven't scratched a GG yet. I know, I know, they're lousy and everyone but me hates them.

**darr** · 19-Dec-2010, 09:15

Originally Posted by jmooney

That's why I like this setup:

It just swings out of the way so no grinding a holder under it and no dropping it, which is a concern for me and my frigged up RA hands. I was emptying the dishwasher the other day and a glass slipped and before the juggling act was over I broke 4 glasses.....the last thing I want to do is have to take off and put back a ground glass standing next to a steam or on a bunch of rocks....

I have an Ebony RSW45 + 6x9 back. My guess is that Shen-Hao copied the design from Ebony's 6x9 cameras. I opted to keep this particular field camera and 6x9 back after years of using other field cameras because I found it to be the easiest and quickest option, but I would not settle for the 6x9 alone when I could have the 4x5" option.

Since I use the P45 digital back for commercial work, I have found the woodies do not hold up for digital precision, thus the M-Line 2 I use. If I was buying new, I would seriously consider going for the 4x5" to 6x9 option. If you decide in the end that 6x9 is not for you, the 4x5" will still be there.