KB Canham Comes Through - 8x10 T Max Available

[Michael Kadillak]

Today Keith Canham made a post on his website that he has received permission from Kodak to offer 8x10 T Max 100 and T Max 400 as a special order in 10 sheet boxes. Keith is also offering a 10% discount for orders that brings down the unit cost very favorably. Yes, this is a special order with a 200 box minimum order but relatively speaking that is very consistent with how Kodak has dealt with this issue previously.

Kodak can cut costs by producing this film as the need arrises and not maintaining year round production activities so we have a window of opportunity to stand up and be counted.

If you have any questions please contact Keith.

Thanks and please pass the word to everyone that shoots 8x10 T Max.

Merry Christmas!

[SW Rick]

Good news! Now we'll see if 200 boxes are ordered.

[Jan Pedersen]

At 69$ per 10 sheet box i think it will take a long time to fill the order!

[Michael Kadillak]

At 69$ per 10 sheet box i think it will take a long time to fill the order!

With the 10% discount it comes down to $62 per box.

I contend that if this is "your" film and it goes from being discontinued to available via Special Order at not a significant increase in costs you jump at the possibility.

If you have not discovered the marvel of this film (best reciprocity correction in the market, impeccable manufacturing standards along with the ability to build usable film density equal to the moon), you don't know what you are missing.

I also recognize the reality that for some film costs are a mountain that is very challenging to climb particularly in this economy. In a perfect world we would acquire the best film possible for our "vision". All I can say is it is what it is.

I only hope that there are enough 8x10 T Max users out there to make this work. To lose access to this quality emulsion in this fine format would be a crying shame. I know that I am going to step up.

[Allen in Montreal]

At 69$ per 10 sheet box i think it will take a long time to fill the order!

The "nay sayers" win the point.

First we lost 50 sheet boxes
Now it is prepaid special order.

At 7 dollars a sheet before Mr. Canham's offer to kick in a 10 percent discount it is a massive increase in a short period as Kodak maneuvers themselves in to a risk free higher margin production run position on emulsions they feel they have a strangle hold on.

Boys, at least call a joker a joker, we have had a stick poked into our eye and there is little most of us can do about it. Lets just stop playing nice and stop touting the line we are Blessed by Farther Yellow for making the special run for us.

They are wetting themselves laughing at the thought of how the ledgers will be looking soon.

But they forgot one AddSum in the ledger.

=sum(TMY/HP5)

As a side note, I blame Jim Kitchen for some of my anger with Kodak!
I gave up on them and then he published all his amazing data on TMY in X-tol, luring me back in to buy some Yellow again. Damn you Jim!

[jim kitchen]

Damn you Jim!

Dear Allen, et al...

TMY, and its most recent sibling, happens to be an amazing film, and I truly enjoy how it works with XTOL. When Kodak decides to reevaluate TMY's market share a few years or months from now, for whatever reason, and whether their marketing decision is unfavourable and, or they introduce TMY-3 because we are willing to pay a premium for this film's exceptional characteristics, I will take comfort knowing that I exercised a traditional Boy Scout motto by exploring an alternate film, developer, and maybe a new development process, going forward today.

jim k

[Bruce Watson]

Boys, at least call a joker a joker, we have had a stick poked into our eye and there is little most of us can do about it.

If you insist on looking at it that way -- the stick that is poked in your eye is held by 8 x 10 users. Kodak is just responding to their actions, and being a convenient fall guy that you can point to.

Kodak hasn't abandoned you. It is 8 x 10 users that have abandoned Kodak. If people don't buy the film, Kodak isn't going to make it available. Why should they? What is it about any of us, myself included, that is so special that Kodak should subsidize our art?

Come on now. Y'all can't really believe that Kodak put in the R&D to create TMY-2 expecting it to have a life of just a few years. But if photographers like us refuse to buy it, that's what's going to happen to TMY-2. If we abandon it, Kodak will abandon it.

[Daniel Stone]

Michael,

you shoot 8x20 as well don't you? I know there's got to be some others on here interested in 8x10 TMY2, would Kodak do that in addition to the 8x10 TMY2? Same run, just cut some into the 8x20 format?

I don't shoot it, but just an idea... Kinda like Ilford, they cut it from the master roll into various sizes....

-Dan

[Ken Lee]

With the 10% discount it comes down to $62 per box.

Is that $6.20 per sheet ?

[Daniel Stone]

With the 10% discount it comes down to $62 per box.

Is that $6.20 per sheet ?

plus shipping

-Dan