I have been emailing people selling LF camera gear, especially the higher end ge ar, for about 3 years now asking "why is this camera for sale?" The answers are interesting with all the usual reasons one would sell a camera. One catagory tho ugh has me puzzled, frustrated and pissed off. That is the one of "This guy is a pathological liar" to "If I see him I will run over him", to "after waiting two years for the camera I lost interest in the format, bought something else & now it is for sale... unused & new in the box". In following up on some of these I have gotten stories (with info from cancelled checks & credit card billings so I know they are accurate) of cameras ordered, paid or in part or in full, that still take up to or over 2 years from the time the buyer was told "IT IS READY TO SHIP". Then, getting the camera & finding the whole front standard is for a different model. In my survey I found complaints centered around one specific camera maker. Way o ut of proportion to his market share which is larger than his competitors. Funny thing was that his competitors had NO complaints anywhere near what his were. N O complaints of lousy service, just small things and NO complaints of payment ma de & then being shined on with ever increasing delivery times. So, finding out "why people sell LF cameras" has become a compilation of "how on e maker seems to be screwing his customers". Anyone can understand problems coming up and delays in shipping. Any business ca n have a screw up now & then. But to do this in an ongoing manner to so many has to be looked at more carefully. Even if the cameras are really nice, who can af ford to pay for one, know they will wait a specified time because the cameras ar e basically hand made, and then find out that 8 weeks 'really means' 8 to 18 mon ths? If you have faced these problems, how have you handled them? What was done & how long did it take? If you don't feel comfortable naming names, that is fine. If you want to name names but not on an open forum, feel free to email me with spec ifics... I have been in contact with the Attorney General of the State of the ma ker with the most complaints & they say they "are looking into it as others have complained". So, go ahead and say what you will as long as it is accurate & tru e. I understand there are two sides to every story. Ken Hough, of Deardorff restora tion was getting some complaints so I contacted him directly & he has made an at tempt to get the truth out. Enough personal problems to effect his business & th ose who complained are working it out. But a maker who does this over & over & o ver again, using payments for a year or more without delivery of goods... AFTER the promised delivery date? That is a horror story that no one who orders a came ra should ever face & if it is happening maybe we can at least shine some light on the situation & prevent it happening to others. The LF community is a small one and most we know in it are honorable & reputable . But the few who trade on that & abuse the trust are causing problems for more than themselves. NO ONE should have a camera ordered & paid for and have to wait so long after promised delivery time that they lose interest in the format & pu t the camera up for sale simply because looking at it fills them with hate, frus tration & the desire to run over the maker with a truck.