Finally printed off a decent Azo, compared it to the same print on multi-contras t rc paper. BIG difference. The clouds had much more depth, the scene had more depth. After a year of using that multi-contrast definately won't go back to i t for contact printing! It was so frustrating to see places that needed tlc and no way to work around them. Didn't have any really trouble with Azo and Amidol t hough working with fiber paper was interesting to say the least. Perhaps being a woman means I don't squeeze as hard so the whole delicate paper issue most of you speak about wasn't an issue, but wow that curling had me going!!! I did hav e trouble with the toning 2 min in 1:20 going purply brown! It actually is kind of nice, but... Just wanted to say how much this place has helped me over the last year figure out the tough stuff. So Thanks everyone. Anyone know where I c ould get about 10 sheets of grade 3 to give it a try before buying the lot? jul es