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    Simple Solution ?

    Occasionally I've been accused of overlooking the obvious...

    I need a simple solution...all ideas welcome...simpler the better...

    Once I coat my dry plates, I lay them across dowels on a darkroom counter to dry - unfortunately with the southwest summer and swamp coolers, drying is excessive - beyond a week...if that soon... (usually one to two days in winter)

    The plates require total darkness to dry....and unfortunately I can't really have a functional darkroom while drying the plates....

    My first inclination is to build a light tight wooden box with vents - but might someone have a simpler solution - looking at 15 to 20 plates each time (4"x5") - must have some air circulation, and light tight....

    Ideas??

    Thanks,
    Dan

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    The box seems like a good idea. Darkroom louvers could provide light-tight venting.

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    Vacuum chamber with pump attached. I suppose could be a dessicator chamber maybe something like is used for drying herbs or such. Perhaps something used from the *bay might be found. For instance I see hospital supplies at auction sites around Austin frequently that could be rigged for quick drying.

    Nate Potter, Austin TX.

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    I live in a humid place and was unable to dry my carbon tissue quickly enough untill I got a dehumidifier. Now I can dry it in about 3 hours if I want to. Fast drying may cause marks on your emulsion. My carbon tissue was growing mould, so I expect your emulsion will too, unless the silver content stops it. I just dry my tissue in a cupboard with the dehumidifier at the bottom running at whatever relative humidty i want. A dehumidifier costs a lot less than most photo equipment and will improve your living environment when you are not using it to dry your emulsion.

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    Dehumidifier or air conditioner

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jp498 View Post
    Dehumidifier or air conditioner
    Dehumidifier. A knee high appliance with a water tank to collect extracted water. A fan sucks air through the appliance. It heats things up slightly but you only notice when it is running in a restricted place such as a cupboard. Mine is capable of extracting 16 liters of water per day from the air. I got mine from a big diy/homewares chain store. Any old brand will do but I believe an Evantair collects the most water athough it is among the noisiest. They are noisy. Probably wont cost much more than USD200 but I am not in the US so that is only a guess. Mine is a Dimplex and fairly basic. The big name brands cost more.

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    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product

    Just saw them at home depot as well.

    I got one of these dehumidifiers for my garage. It's quiet as a computer or portable fan. It really surprised me as I was accustomed to noisy heavy dehumidifiers that worked like a noisy AC sitting on a water tank.

    I put it in my garage at 70% humidity (1200 sf 1.5 story garage), and it filled it's tank in about 8-10 hours. Hooked a hose up to it so I wouldn't have to tend to it. It's presently able to reduce humidity by about 10% a day. (It's job won't be done, as the air changes are inevitable when the garage door is open for a while.) Since darkrooms are substantially smaller, it would probably work very quickly and effectively.

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    I'm not too sure a dehumidifier would work here in the summer - we have 'dry heat' and use swamp coolers to cool - which cools by simply adding moisture to the air.

    Haven't had any issues with mold on the plates - they just stay slightly tacky, shootable, but can't stack them together or they stick.

    Looking like I'm going to end up having to build the wooden box, and use a vent, maybe with offset baffles to keep it light tight.

    Thanks all for the suggestions....
    Dan

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DanK View Post
    I'm not too sure a dehumidifier would work here in the summer - we have 'dry heat' and use swamp coolers to cool - which cools by simply adding moisture to the air.

    Haven't had any issues with mold on the plates - they just stay slightly tacky, shootable, but can't stack them together or they stick.

    Looking like I'm going to end up having to build the wooden box, and use a vent, maybe with offset baffles to keep it light tight.

    Thanks all for the suggestions....
    Dan
    If you have dry heat then why is your emulsion not drying? It should dry fastest of all in dry heat. Cool and humid is what I have during the autmn and spring. Cool and dry weather should dry slower than warm and dry weather. Are you using enough gelatin? Glycerin will slow drying time dramatically, if you are using it. Too much Glycerin would be a bad thing. Stuff drys much faster if there is some air movement, you could put a fan in there if you are not already using one. Perhaps the swamp coolers are the problem.

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    Re: Simple Solution ?

    The swamp cooler actually is the problem, the humidity created by it, but without the swamp cooler darkroom temps would be in the 90's+

    The idea is to have a usable darkroom while the plates are drying...

    I use premixed emulsion - am not doing enough tintypes to justify making my own emulsion...

    I also don't mind the longer wait time for the plates to dry - I was simply looking for a simple idea as to what may be feasible to store the plates in 'while they dry'....

    As I really don't have time or energy at the moment to build something suitable, I was hoping someone had encountered similar problems and has a simple, quick, cheap, and easy solution...

    Thanks,
    Dan

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